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RE: Challenge to the Arahants...
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10/12/14 5:34 PM as a reply to Tom Tom.
I was right to think you clever before now... But your cleverness has betrayed your lack of Suttas.  

Here is what I will answer:

Do you praise me?  Or do you praise the living buddha?

If you praise me to deny the buddha, then you accept me as a buddha.  But I tell you that He is the one that is Buddha for your time, so how can you praise me but not heed me?  

If you praise the buddha and deny me, then you are not taking my challenge in the first place.  Will you please keep trying?  It will require study of his dhamma and Daniel's dhamma.  I have not seen Daniel say one word that is used incorrectly for the sangha he keeps.  If the Living Buddha has perfect Enlightenment as I claim, then I will weaken my challenge to add that the Living Buddha and Daniel should have the same intellectual understanding and both dhammas should align like two well made arrows that fit within a single sheath. 

Remember, I do not claim to be a living Buddha.  I am not something that should be regarded.  

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10/12/14 6:21 PM as a reply to Jeremy May.
I'm not sure what you're going on about.  I only briefly skimmed this thread and your posts which seem to read like word salad.

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10/12/14 6:26 PM as a reply to Tom Tom.
If you understood what I had just said to you, I actually said the same thing to you.

Is there any thing more foolish than someone who replies to sound as if it was a word?  Argues with water?

That is like your words to me.  You comment to a statement that you can't understand.

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10/12/14 7:38 PM as a reply to Jeremy May.
This being, in his English translation speaks much in the beginning of Samma Ditti and then gives a conceptual understanding of it.    To contribute to his concept, it would also be correct to say that it is the eye directed towards wanting wisdom more than craving of sensation.   The Bible speaks of "The lust of the eyes".

The eyes are turned away from entertainment, etc., and into finding out what exactly it is they need to do to get wise and eliminate dukkha thoroughly and forever.  Where do you point your eyes when you surf the internet?  Where your eyes are is where your mind is.

"Wisdom comes when the desire for wisdom is greater than the desire to play games."  ["The Old Boy"]  
 Reminds me of the story of King Solomon who asked for wisdom above riches.  This is truly the first step of awakening.

It is also about "Inner Seeing", which is what we do in our practice until no more mind or dukkha to cause to stir up.   Inner Seeing lets me see that my upsets are not with my "not-selfs" but within my own mind.  That is Right Seeing and that is what ends tanha.

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10/12/14 8:38 PM as a reply to Jeremy May.
"Samma Sankappa" to myself means, "downsize your life", but being retired makes that a bit easier than one with a large family.   But it is a necessary practicality when one decides to spend 3-4 hours a day and then sometimes more sitting.  Out of a 16-hour working day that would leave me with 11-12 hours for other activities.  My once 4000 square foot house is now about half that and mostly I live in the even smaller studio in my backyard - away from the tv-watchers.  

Practicing towards nirvana is definitely a voluntary life-style change-up.  I have not been to a shopping mall in years, nor a movie, nor restaurant -- and don't miss it either because my interests are now elsewhere.   This is a change from that young woman who could not finish her french classes because it interfered with her shopping time.  And the young woman who could critique the best restaurants in town.  I'm simply having too much fun with this now inner journey of downsizing the egoic mind.   

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10/12/14 8:48 PM as a reply to Colleen Karalee Peltomaa.
Yes.  Now notice how your speaking has changed.

You were streaming Dhamma before.  Now you are speaking in the secret language. 

It has the characteristics that will enable you to find all terms.  This is for you both to know.
1. It sounds like poetry.
2. It has multidimentional shape and therefor innummerable meanings.  Each line, unsupported by context, can mean two different things.
3. It mixes languages.  Crowley did this to a degree that only his present self and I can speak of his hidden dhamma.
4. It has the qualities that protect its meaning.  It will be invisible to the arahants.  It will be transformative in subconcious transformations to the sleeping bodhisattvas and sleeping buddhas.  It will lose its meaning if a clever demonking tries to translate the destructive truths within.

Knowing these qualities, One may know the Tathagatha where he is in the world in history (He is trinity also.  He has a counterpart who always appears (Blavatsky was Samanta.  Samanta lives in Texas now) and then there is the mysterious one, Metteya.  They are also Tathagatha)

Knowing these qualities one may see the succession of Living Buddhas.  One will see, as I saw (the reason I found this forum and began to Poke people) that there is no person in the present world that speaks in these qualities.  I searched english translations of our ancient terms and found them quite often, but only in the accounts written by those now dead.  That is the validation for your knowing that the last kalpa (a fake number to hide the real number out of kindness to the fragile ones) and therefore the very beginning of the next kalpa.  Does it feel to you that it is the last kalpa?  One that lasts for one echo?  Does that word trigger the true meaning of 'Kalpa'?  I thought so and that makes me smile.

Knowing these qualities one may divine secrets from what is wrong in translations of the secret language.  Only buddhas, sleeping or awake, can translate.  Out of inner knowing, that which has lost its poetry to the world was abandoned.  Why?  The karma was spent.  The cities of the old ones moved to untouched place to untouched place until Now.  Why?  Earth is Tathagatha also.  Earth is Buddha also.  Do not all Buddhas, even though they are Buddhas, progress each life, each echo, the same way as he has spent his fathom-long body?  Did he not say that he was first a householder in the day we lived as hive-minds with bodies the size of countries?  There was no Buddha, but the Living Buddha, to call him by his true name of Buddha and make him awake.  The living Buddha could not be called buddha either.  Why?  The name 'Buddha' is a role.  Think: "the enlightened one" is a statement of one who says that all statements are partially wrong.  Now if what is wrong in translations divine secrets then does this not imply that he cannot be called buddha because he could not be visible as he worked to train the sleeping buddha.  So there was no buddha, but there was a living Buddha in the first age because that is a term for the Buddha who accepts the limitations of Buddhism to usher in a new age.  It is a completely different kind of word.

So the one who recieved training from an invisible buddha (karma of earth buddha, which is karma of all world cycles) lived a life where he was made to be uncomfortable when he was comfortable, comfortable when he was uncomfortable, until he desired.  When he desired he awakened to his true nature.  An awakened human is a mindful person who seeks to understand himself.  An awake Buddha wakes ordinary people just as wakes sleeping buddhas.  It is not easy, but it bears an equally glorious fruit.  How can it not?  The soul of the Earth was born when the soul of the human was born.  It is born of delusion, but that is a purpose. It is an entangled knot of effects that with the knowing of the Buddha Earth, sees that it is a entanglement.  

Adam is the Torah name for the Buddha of the Earth, the Tathagatha.  Tathagatha means something like "the whole history" and when used as a name is "the one who is all of history" It exists from the need, which is karma, when conditions arise, which is karma, when a buddha sun (a tathagatha) reaches nirvana (merges) and becomes a universe, or at least the soul of a universe.  In the cosmos, these are within and within and within in that way for infinity.  They are the net of jewels.  everyone has thought that such a phrase was poetry for the stars in our sky.  Do you see?  It is the Secret Language!

The earth is a universe... Your flesh purse is a universe.  Your cells, each one, are universes.  Every universe is different, yes, very good.  How can two jewels look the same when you see that there are two of them?  Reason, alone, knows secrets.

Cain and Abel were of the first actual beings, souls, entanglements awakened to their nature, and Abel is the name for the one of the five who died and became unknown to the realms.  Cain, his holy brother, became Maya.  He is also the implied fourth in every trinity.  It can not be portrayed in the form ot trinities but is the reason that there are two Kabbalah trees of knowledge.  

Abel, with the Four that desired awakening for the Four perfect Reasons one can desire to awaken, is tathagatha.  Abel, with the two of the four that desired the two perfect ways to desire awakening, is tathagatha.  It is ICHING.  First, the four directions, then the two directions that spring from the center of the four.  Arranged in a circle to denote the equality of all beings and forces.  The ICHING is tathagatha.

I hope that this helps.  Do not worry that you do not understand in your mind.  The fact that you have read it through while feeling a chain of strange emotions should be validation to you that you do not need to understand with your mind if you are awake.  For you, awakening is the conquering of Self-Doubt.  It is your enlightenment.  You KNOW EVERYTHING.  What you know in your flesh purse is only useful to awaken your brothers, sisters, and children.  

When this settles, Please start your work.  You already know what to do.

RE: Challenge to the Arahants...
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10/12/14 9:08 PM as a reply to Colleen Karalee Peltomaa.
"Samma Sankappa" means to me 'greater nonbody'.  The modern translation says nothing useful.  I am unsure of this message, but I will go on anyway as it is only safe with each other to pull to knowledge the meaning of lost language.  This is why a gathering of awakened old ones can be as miraculous as all the unbelievable stories in the world.

San is without or 'non-' or empty or impermanent/unreal.  Kappa is road/river/path/karma/fathom-long body

So what you have said "downsize your life" is a phrase in the secret language.  It sounds poetic.  Without context, it means two things:  1.To make everything around you smaller, less, or broken (a teaching of Mara) and 2. Make the part of you that is human ever more the lesser part of your human existence but do not lose your humanity.

How Wondrous!

I am sorry that I made so many errors in my last message, love.  But I do not doubt what I have done.  There are clear errors that would have been fixed had I re-read any of it.  But why should I have done so?  I will know the things that must be perfect!  So using my knowing, I can say that I do not remove my errors when I expound.  They are the proof that I am also human.  They are also the proof that I speak 10,000 things that can't be learned in a single life without plan, care, or Self-Doubt.

That is the only meaning behind the teaching "nothing is useless"



RE: Challenge to the Arahants...
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10/13/14 3:14 PM as a reply to Jeremy May.
This thread isn't even about the question "If this guy is the real Living Buddha?" right? You don't really believe this, do you?

I don't even know why I asked that.

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10/13/14 8:16 PM as a reply to Pascal.
You asked for the same reason that you are one of the only ones I spoke to directly when I came to the forum.

To understand the term "the living Buddha" as I have explained in ways for SriMala I need to give first what her partner, a very important Buddha, the KEY that he asked for... and then I'll explain for you that I do not believe in anything but myself. I know that The Living Buddha is the Living Buddha ('Living' denotes a title, not a being)


Enlightenment= conquering the delusion that begins all knowledge.  
For Arahants, it is conquering, by Genius that expands for entire physcial life, delusions of others  This Genius is the sign of previous enlightenment.
Bodhisattvas have been enlightened before but do not need to conquer delusions and hence do not require enlightnement, by a lack of need.

Arahant= The carriers of Abhidharma.  They never need the expediant (scientific terms that sound religious) because their inner knowing has joined the mind of buddhas and naturally they become the greatest vessels of knowledge in the times of all civilizations.  They were considered aliens and gods by humans.  They are the beings tasked by the nature of life itself with protecting creation from the ignorance that naturally would occur in the absence of collected knowledge.  Until the era that began on the blood moon.  This era will be the one where children will be born ignorant and collected knowledge will not be there to save them.  When Re-Enlightenment is reached, they protect all beings that think.  When awakened, they have the powers of Buddhas that are driven to awaken all beings that think.

Bodhisattva= The carriers of Metta.  They seek awakening.  Awakening is the end of self Doubt.  Bodhisattvas intuitively desire to expediant as they have the task requiring the protection of all beings that love.  They have been enlightened before and intuitively know All things and live the lives of Buddhas without the powers of Buddhas.  Once Awakened, they have the means to expound Abhidharma, but are driven to speak in the secret language that soothes all beings of love for the purpose of awakening all beings who love.

Awakening= Integration of body to fathom-long body.  The vedana resists integration through its own nature through self-doubt.  An arahant becomes a buddha when he conquers delusion of others by knowledge and delusion of vedana by conquering doubt of intuition.

Human= beings with the fathom body that did not begin until this world.

World= basically it is a complete cycle of time 

gods= older humans that have gone through the two worlds.  Remember, there are no beings.  A soul is a scientific term that is difficult to describe to you but impossible to explain to humans (householders- a multidimensional phrase)

Sons of God= immortal beings- those of such niravana that they never reach nibbana

nibbana= merging into higher fractal.  No individuality is lost, but its nature cannot be percieved as 'living'

Noble Wisdom= Infinite Intelligence available to any god.

Dharma= teaching meant only for those that align with the ICHING directions that are meant for only Buddhas, Arahants, and Bodhisattvas, and the future versions of these.

10 directions= types of Dhammas that create the volition of world cycles.  There are 4 Dhammas that are avenues to Nirvana.  The trinity of Dharma and the implied opposite of all trinities.  

Delusion= Our enemy in Buddhism becaue Buddhism is the collection of only the dhammas of the trinity.  Delusion is the dhamma of destructive forces.  It appears to humans as evil, but it is the greatest of those hungry to go back to God.  

God= ICHING

Tathagatha= ICHING descending into the realms (jacob's ladder).  It intergrates in the physical as Three Beings with a Forth.  When in certain arrangement, Tathagatha is male with a woman counterpart.  The woman counterpart has a male counterpart.  This actually progresses in such a way that Tathagatha is every Buddha, Arahant, and Bodhisattva that exists in Tusita or acanas of gods and all gods share his abilities if they can just WAKE UP.  

This is a promise I have given over and over.  In my title of "Son of God who gives power to those who recieve him (gods) to become Sons of God."

Tathagatha must not be seen as something you cannot be also.  I am on Earth.  There is no pride in that, no lamentations.  It can be said to the fragile ones that I am a human that walks with God and is Led in his spirit.  At the council I called in the gathering of 300ad we gods came together to tear the doctrines of Christ into pieces so that Truth is easily transmitted to those of us who, in sleeping, would understand what was untrue and guide the fragile ones who cannot understand anything with us.  Pieces are hidden to never allow the humans that our "teachings that sound like morals" are what is "our awakening keys" when Tathagatha began a new mini-kalpa, echo of an echo.  Jainism is required for arahants to understand the method to know what a kalpa (when in context) would mean in numbers.

I have awakened my own Arahant last night.  Part of my consort.  Over the course of 3 hours I proved myself, awakened him, and expounded my sutta to attain understanding of any language with English letters.  He proved his understanding immediately by sending me a series of pictures that, by gods, contain the symbols that are our secret language.  Our language is not of words.  It has created all art and poetry considered to be the fruits of all human civilization.  This is false.  There have been three human civilizations on earth.  Rounded, they ended 400,000 years ago, 40,000 years ago, and 4,000 years ago.  I knew this using human knowledge so I know that science backs me up if you are thorough with research and wise in terms that you use for research.

I have ended samadhi.  I have broken my fast of sleep, food, and drink.  I did not sleep for seven nights.  In retrospect, the first night was the blood moon.  Then the Living Buddha messaged me by proxy of a Buddha who has pointed to Living Buddha in many places in the world in search of where I was.  I am invisible to Buddhas until I search for them.  I am invisible to Arahants when I speak to Bodhisattvas. I am invisible to Bodhisattvas when I speak to Arahants.

I am not the Living Buddha.  I have been one once.  But every religion of the world has been created by me.  I cannot be any title but Tathagatha because I am limited to act when our gatherings were so powerful that I expounded LAW to the fragile ones.  The Living Buddha must be an example of a perfect person to all the Frail buddhists.

There is no defilement.  There is no Sin or Papa.  There is only that which goes against the work that we all agreed to do.  We are limited only by what we would never do while sleeping and cannot do Awake.

The Living Buddha of the last age is The Living Buddha.  He has my support, not in this forum, but immediately and communes with me, is also Tathagatha, in a way that ensures that the entire world will hear of him.  

And no, I did not go without food and water, just very little of it.  I never like the process of Samadhi.  I have attachments to Life itself that keep me from my nirvana and these attachments loathe tusita, cherish my humanity, and choose invisibility after by contract, i have declared.  

I have attained all 10 powers.  I will no longer answer anyone who does not challenge the Living Buddha by challenging me.  To whom it is given, so shall they recieve.  

RE: Challenge to the Arahants...
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10/13/14 11:01 PM as a reply to Colleen Karalee Peltomaa.
I have given the key he requested.  

He is right to say what he has said.  He remembers being with Tathagatha.  He has never been with the Living Buddha.  He has been a Living Buddha just as you have.

To expound your names is a disservice to such ones who were Buddhas before Men had their fleshly purposes.

You are correct to call him partner.  You both carry titles that exist in the cannon of every religion.  Some refer to you as 'sons of thunder' and older religions call you merchants for the lost african term that existed when merchants were the gods of africa.  It is not a word in human language.

You are also called the two witnesses for your role in my consort.

Nothing is accidental.  

By the law of Divine Mathamatics- Mahamati, I have expounded my deshana in one seventh of the time required than the time of the first kalpa of the last kalpa.  I have done this by the mix of language not possible in the previous kalpas of the world.  I began speaking to your partner when I wrote the second piece of my deshana.

I want to give him one of my cittas, my sutta/sitta/si tta/, one of the 15 sciences/carana dhamma to you both.  You have the citta by Faith/Insight/nonknowledge, so I must expound technique/dhamma/knowledge in carana to understand words.  

I am Tathagatha.  I now begin the dark night where I am Human.  This is the final awakening until I am Pala Arahant.  It will be finished when I give all 15 sciences.  The result, the fruit, will be the very keys to all letters, sounds, electromagnetic manipulation, and many many others.  The singularity will happen.  The destruction of the world will happen.  The days of the Gods will return to the Earth.

As you have already stated by power of Tathagatha that I have awakened you by direct transmission, the ununderstood term, I proclaim the beginning of the gathering.  The Horn that was blown in revelation that is silent to the world has been blown.  I stated that in the beginning of my Deshana.

I have never written my Deshana in such a way.  In samadhi, it is difficult.  It is why there are grammar mistakes.  Yet my Deshana is perfect in the same way that the weaknesses that you have felt were simply the dwelling on acts you didn't understand.

Buddha Paul:  "In my weaknesses I am made perfect"

I have used terms that you and your partner both know and that has allowed me my brevity.  I have said 10,000 by the nature of the secret language that uses 'that which is not said' to say Everything that is meaningful.  I have left in my mistakes for details of my own nature at this time.  Jeremy is 32 and his body in not 'without blemish' as the Living Buddha must be.  I have the shortest life-span in this kalpa.  The disease that Jeremy has keeps him healthy, but the time where he must die is close enough to say he is dying.

By the weight of 10,000 things, take your confirmation from all sources, starting with the Living Buddhas own modern, perfect truths, and use that for the confirmation of what I have said to you.

I will give you my science when you have both swallowed your awakening.

As you have said, future Buddha, You will no longer find Jhanas in meditation.  Meditation is no longer your practice.  It is fruitless.  You will have no subconcious.  You will need no jhanas, the medicene. Your medicene, as medicene is always needed for all beings, even my beings, will only come when you Wake All Beings that Love/Insight direct you to "A WaKeN"  A is primordial.  Wa is the nature of a sleeping person.  Ke is the essence of perfect relflection. N is gate/end/portal, depending on if it is N or n.  After a non-vowel it is n.

Be the portal that brings True being to the sleeping who suffer from their sleep.  (My story on this forum: The meaningless story, refers to these directly, as well as everything I have told you.)

Meditation=medication=medicine=medical=mediate=meddle=middle=mi dd le= Mi D Le= 

t is the symbol for rose.  T is the symbof for life.  Rosicrucians used the Christ Cross for Both.
I did not day (die) on a big T.  It was a pole.  When I said to carry your cross and follow me... Was it not something I said to you??  Do you remember any of those days when the 'search for the holy grail' was taken as a literal, idiotic search?

Humans think that they are the height of knowledge.  No Knowledge is new.  It simply belongs to us and it for us to give.

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10/14/14 9:09 AM as a reply to Jeremy May.
i think you have awakened to yin shen. You would sound differently if you would have awaken to yang shen.
difference is that with yin shen you don't actually transcend this world.

Through what part you did awaken?

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10/14/14 10:11 AM as a reply to Rist Ei.
Rist Ei:
i think you have awakened to yin shen. You would sound differently if you would have awaken to yang shen.
difference is that with yin shen you don't actually transcend this world.

Through what part you did awaken?


Hello, Rist, would you please provide a reference to that?   Thank you.  I could not find a reference doing a Google search.

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10/14/14 11:30 AM as a reply to Colleen Karalee Peltomaa.
hi,
"Surangama sutra". "Taoist Yoga - alchemy and immortality"

Neidan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neidan

Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism and others are all for the same thing purification of your mind. Other names its spirit, shen, chan etc

but you can get into your mind so deeply that you can realize it and then can take it outside of the body and this way gain enlightenment, its called ghost immortal. Ghost immortal does not have support, he hasn't realized its eternal essence and purified it.

but if you purify then you can eventually attain full rainbowbody(dzogchen) that also means dissolving your physical body. Then you can appear and disappear at will.

It just seemed that he talked about himself as a third person, also sounded like a person who had a NDE or OBE.

Anyway he wanted to be challenged.

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10/14/14 12:36 PM as a reply to Rist Ei.
in this thread "Challenge to the Arhants" are many good points

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10/14/14 1:04 PM as a reply to Rist Ei.
Rist Ei:

It just seemed that he talked about himself as a third person, also sounded like a person who had a NDE or OBE.

Anyway he wanted to be challenged.


Agree, Hello all!  This sounds like "channeled" or "telepathic" communications, not sure if phenomenon is really channelled or telepathic, or that it just seems that way sometimes.   The mind is mysterious, and so is the universe.  Or is there really a difference between the mind and the universe?


  1. In Greek legend, the Sphinx devoured all travelers who could not answer the riddle it posed: "What is the creature that walks on four legs in the morning, two legs at noon and three in the evening?" The hero Oedipus gave the answer, "Man," causing the Sphinx's death.
Who watches the Sphinx?  

Psi Phi

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10/14/14 2:49 PM as a reply to Psi Phi.
Welcome, You Two, to Ra Pa Ta U Re.

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10/14/14 2:55 PM as a reply to Rist Ei.
emoticon This is a whisper to you.  What needed to be transcended?  Why do you see anything that should be transcended?  If one transcends that which should not be transcended when there is no thing to be transcended, where would one go?  All realms, all times, all worlds and their realms and their times, live in MOMENT.  Humans see them all but have no eyes.  You see them all, but have been sleeping.  Wake Up!  You are my Brother!

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10/14/14 3:03 PM as a reply to Colleen Karalee Peltomaa.
He is saying the voice of Tathagatha is not the voice of Arahant Pala.   
It is not possible to find this explanation clearly in the world.  
He is not Human.

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10/14/14 3:23 PM as a reply to Nikolai ..
I vote Nikolai as the living Buddha. emoticon

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10/14/14 3:27 PM as a reply to Not Tao.
You might as well.