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Here are some sutta quotes I came across which seems to
describe 'phala'. Maybe we should use the correct word - or viraga
sanna or nirodha sanna so that these hidden dhammas will manifest
clearly again.
6. Samàdhisuttaü Ý Concentration
6. Then venerable ânanda approached The Blessed One ... re ... and
said to The Blessed One:
Venerable sir, is there a concentration to the bhikkhu, abiding in
which, in earth he has no perceptions of earth, in water he has no
perceptions of water, in fire he has no perceptions of fire, in air
he has no perceptions of air, in the sphere of space, he has no
perceptions of the sphere of space, in the sphere of consciousness,
he has no perceptions of the sphere of consciousness, in the sphere
of nothingness, he has no perceptions of the sphere of nothingness,
in the sphere of neither perceptions nor non-perceptions, he has no
perceptions of the sphere of neither perceptions nor non-
perceptions. In this world, he has no perceptions of this world. In
the other world, he has no perceptions of the other world. Yet he is
perceptive.?"
ânanda, there is that concentration to the bhikkhu, abiding in
which, in earth he has no perceptions of earth, in water he has no
perceptions of water, in fire he has no perceptions of fire, in air
he has no perceptions of air, in the sphere of space, he has no
perceptions of the sphere of space, in the sphere of consciousness,
he has no perceptions of the sphere of consciousness, in the sphere
of nothingness, he has no perceptions of the sphere of nothingness,
in the sphere of neither perceptions nor non-perceptions, he has no
perceptions of the sphere of neither perceptions nor non-
perceptions. In this world, he has no perceptions of this world. In
the other world, he has no perceptions of the other world. Yet he is
perceptive"
Venerable sir, what is that concentration to the bhikkhu, abiding in
which, in earth he has no perceptions of earth, in water he has no
perceptions of water, in fire he has no perceptions of fire, in air
he has no perceptions of air, in the sphere of space, he has no
perceptions of the sphere of space, in the sphere of consciousness,
he has no perceptions of the sphere of consciousness, in the sphere
of nothingness, he has no perceptions of the sphere of nothingness,
in the sphere of neither perceptions nor non-perceptions, he has no
perceptions of the sphere of neither perceptions nor non-
perceptions. In this world, he has no perceptions of this world. In
the other world, he has no perceptions of the other world. Yet he is
perceptive?"
Here, ânanda, the bhikkhu is perceptive thus: This is peaceful, this
is exalted, such as the appeasement of all determinations, giving up
of all endearments, destruction of craving, disenchantment,
cessation and extinction. ânanda, in this manner, there is that
concentration to the bhikkhu, abiding in which, in earth he has no
perceptions of earth, in water he has no perceptions of water, in
fire he has no perceptions of fire, in air he has no perceptions of
air, in the sphere of space, he has no perceptions of the sphere of
space, in the sphere of consciousness, he has no perceptions of the
sphere of consciousness, in the sphere of nothingness, he has no
perceptions of the sphere of nothingness, in the sphere of neither
perceptions nor non-perceptions, he has no perceptions of the sphere
of neither perceptions nor non-perceptions. In this world, he has no
perceptions of this world. In the other world, he has no perceptions
of the other world. Yet he is perceptive.
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Nikaya/Anguttara6/10-dasakanipata/001-anisamsavaggo-e.html]http://www.metta.lk/tipitaka/2Sutta-Pitaka/4Anguttara-
Nikaya/Anguttara6/10-dasakanipata/001-anisamsavaggo-e.html
[6] ..."And what is the perception of dispassion? There is the case
where a monk — having gone to the wilderness, to the shade of a
tree, or to an empty building — reflects thus: 'This is peace, this
is exquisite — the stilling of all fabrications, the relinquishment
of all acquisitions, the ending of craving, dispassion, Unbinding.'
This is called the perception of dispassion.
[7] "And what is the perception of cessation? There is the case
where a monk — having gone to the wilderness, to the shade of a
tree, or to an empty building — reflects thus: 'This is peace, this
is exquisite — the stilling of all fabrications, the relinquishment
of all acquisitions, the ending of craving, cessation, Unbinding.'
This is called the perception of cessation.
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7. Sàriputtasuttaü Ý Venerable Sriputta
7. Venerable ânanda approached venerable Sàriputta, exchanged
friendly greetings, sat on a side and said:
ßFriend, Sàriputta, is there a concentration, to the bhikkhu,
abiding in which, in earth he has no perceptions of earth, in water
he has no perceptions of water, in fire he has no perceptions of
fire, in air he has no perceptions of air, in the sphere of space,
he has no perceptions of the sphere of space, in the sphere of
consciousness, he has no perceptions of the sphere of consciousness,
in the sphere of nothingness, he has no perceptions of the sphere of
nothingness, in the sphere of neither perceptions nor non-
perceptions, he has no perceptions of the sphere of neither
perceptions nor non-perceptions. In this world, he has no
perceptions of this world. In the other world, he has no perceptions
of the other world. Yet he is perceptive?"
`Friend, ânanda, there is a concentration to the bhikkhu, abiding in
which, in earth he has no perceptions of earth, in water he has no
perceptions of water, in fire he has no perceptions of fire, in air
he has no perceptions of air, in the sphere of space, he has no
perceptions of the sphere of space, in the sphere of consciousness,
he has no perceptions of the sphere of consciousness, in the sphere
of nothingness, he has no perceptions of the sphere of nothingness,
in the sphere of neither perceptions nor non-perceptions, he has no
perceptions of the sphere of neither perceptions nor non-
perceptions. In this world, he has no perceptions of this world. In
the other world, he has no perceptions of the other world. Yet he is
perceptive.
ßFriend, Sàriputta, how is that concentration to the bhikkhu, in
which, in earth he has no perceptions of earth, ... re ... Yet he is
perceptive?"
ß Friend, ânanda, once I was abiding in this same dark forest in
Sàvatthi and abode in that concentration. Then in earth I had no
perceptions of earth, in water I had no perceptions of water, in
fire I had no perceptions of fire, in air I had no perceptions of
air, in the sphere of space, I had no perceptions of the sphere of
space, in the sphere of consciousness, I had no perceptions of the
sphere of consciousness, in the sphere of nothingness, I had no
perceptions of the sphere of nothingness, in the sphere of neither
perceptions nor non-perceptions, I had no perceptions of the sphere
of neither perceptions nor non-perceptions. In this world, I had no
perceptions of this world. In the other world, I had no perceptions
of the other world. Yet I was perceptive.
ßFriend, Sàriputta, of what were you perceptive at the time?"
ßFriend, ânanda, the perception, `Cessation of being is extinction.'
arose and faded in me with knowledge. Friend, like at the edge of a
potsherd the splinters rise and fade with knowledge. In the same
manner the perception, `cessation of being is extinction' arose and
faded in me. Friend, at that time I was of the perception,
`Cessation of being is extinction.'û