Open Minded:
Beoman Claudiu Dragon Emu Fire Golem:
Open Minded:
There would still be love, lust, etc.. Yet all the problematic stuff would be gone.
love + lust are part of the problematic stuff. there's nothing in them that is worth missing out on actuality for. they're just selfish emotions which don't care how many people (including the 'feeler') they hurt
This is nuts.
i second what Nick said, but to give you a few points to ponder:
Open Minded:
I've never selfishly loved.
when you love somebody, and you want to be with them, do you want to be with them for their sake, or to make yourself feel better?
when you love somebody, and they leave you, you feel pain. why do you feel pain if it isn't selfish?
when you love somebody, and you see they feel bad, you feel bad, and want to help them. are you helping them to help them, or to help your own feeling-bad feeling (or to make yourself better in their eyes so they stay with you)?
when you love somebody, and you want to help them, and they don't listen to your advice/contradict you, you feel upset. why do you feel upset if it's not selfish? what's in it for you?
Open Minded:
I've never felt lust for someone in a selfish way. Maybe rapists do, but I surely haven't.
really? isn't lust just to gratify your own desire? what's that if not selfish?
if you mean you lust to make them feel good - do you do that to make them feel good, or because if they feel good, you feel good?
Open Minded:
And surely they don't hurt anyone.
you yourself mentioned rapists. refer to my points on love for situations in which people get hurt (feel angry, upset, etc.)
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about having sex with someone without loving them/in a PCE, there's good reading about that on the AF site:
richard,
peter,
vineeto. sounds pretty enjoyable for all parties involved to me. (but as nick said, that's an opinion, so you will have to have sex in a PCE to see for yourself)