> - new - triplethink - X 3
Sorry 'bout the volume. I realize I write long posts but I don't insert, again, as many code breaks. Better to quote a part of a longer text in general than break it up too much. This could make a good general announcement probably, feel free to shout back;
Cool to the Mr. Know, Dude. Exemplary stuff.
Ok, Brainstroke!
First off - there is way too much fraking code in this post to handle. Every time I hit send, half of my code repairs vanish.
So, smaller bytes, ok?
Lets not tip the bowl back and shove the whole thing bowl and all down my throat ok? I'm very so sorry about the gender gaff and I have addressed that in all posts where that could have been a concern so we should again be 'very cool'
ok?For the purposes of this post;
your U (Mr. No) will be in regular size regular boldthis U<IT>U will be (3bird) will be in regular size regular type
quote fragments will be unmarked but assumed to be so unless marked as new mr. No or new 3bird.
>quote - triple think
I think you are very cool. I am cool and a bit odd at times so that is probably cool except when it is just plain weird. 'We' are just plain 'that's so cool man', which is very cool with me.
>new - 3bird
Also, finally saw daylight from the bottom of the snow cone and can stay indoors for the rest of, foreseeably, today, thx be unto Pajapatti!!!!!!! or who the freak ever! So freakishly fridgedly precipitatingly triple green chilli vanilli Corbin Dallas! Coooooooold outside.
And from now on;
If you keep the quotes to a line or two and the post # <---> I will shift any Ms. Nothing addresses to Mr. No. Or even Dr. No, if you want.
Deal?
>quote - mr. No
Firstly, I'm actually male (as explained in the little box) ! I'm sorry to not make it clear from the start. I guess the anonym has a more feminine flavor than I anticipated.. or maybe this "it machine" just not being manly enough.
>new - triple think
Well, three things, the inclusion of "Sweet Nothings, NS at one point" did throw me into questioning gender, to no avail I see now! In the online space/time ID as well as gender is nebulous at best and lastly I don't assume at all 'as sum' such may become otherwise, I was plainly mistaken. Also now I understand the gender comment in the Chat Box was a first person reference and not a second person online, so there is only One in U of "S. N.", not 2U's, so thx for clearing that up. I will go back through and amend to Mr.. My ass-pologies! Yikes. Cut/Paste/Cut/Paste...
Also I still haven't looked into my files re: Akasagarbha & Ksitigarbha the two Bodhisatta I mentioned in the chatbox. But toss 'em into the Googler web or it's image web and these ancients will arise as majic as majic can be.
I don't know that Sweet or Nothing indicates any gender either as sukkha is many things, neither does nothing - dependent on conditionality, etc..
> - quote - 3bird
I don't really know about my health or what is going to happen to my body except... .
...please, set any concerns like that aside. This is what I do.
> - new - 3bird
Yeah, I am obviously male on sight however I have been largely genderless and have to project that energy for the effect, I'm not saying there aren't women that can get that sort of affect/effect from me with effort but I have neither sought it nor used that effect/affect much with females or males beyond a minimal comfort level for others for maybe a dozen years now and have not troubled this IT machine about any of that beyond tests I run with images to note affect/effect. The gear all works very well, women are impressed, men are intimidated, yadayadayada. I simply don't give a fig beyond what might be needed in a moment, I have more interesting things to do.
For instance lately I have been honing com-skills on the interwebz, hows the output, I have more or less "mixed reviews" from all accounts so far. Samsara is merely, after all, only, a four way, 16 lane, 256 Level Mega-Highway System. & Now also online.
> - quote - Mr. No
I certainly don't know why either of us are here or anything else to be honest.> - 3bird - interjects - Who does? Divine Nectar Drinkers in Tavattsima?
>quote - mr. No
I have no idea what the complete picture looks like, and whatever understanding I have stems from selective understandings of the perceptions I've glimpsed so far. I wish that things go smoothly and whatever is left to be done is done. I shall try to remember this when my car gets wrecked or needs some repairs.>quote - 3bird
I have been looking forward to our conversation continuing; simply because, so far, for my part, it has been the most easygoing and pleasant one I am having here at DhO. So when it is time for you to move on, I will wish you well. For so long as you would like to continue to converse and discuss the Dhamma, the Neo-Dhamma or life in general, I will welcome it. Ok?
>3bird - new comment
Also the color coding in tripleplay posts or elsewhere are more to indicate internal perception/sensation/cognition status than indicate emotional affect or effect, nothing implied only allusions, so if off, notify for course corrections.>3bird has lost the thread on who owns this line, feel free to make a Claim to it No vs. mr.no ( rotflmao )
So have I, so do I. > ( likely? ) - Mr. No> - quote - 3bird
I speak and use words in many different ways depending on the listener(s). Another aspect of this is that it can become confusing for others when I speak to some question two or three or more different ways. So if the question has already been asked one or two other ways it would be better to put all of the answers in one post and show more clearly where these are different answers to the same question or something similar to that. This way others will see that I am answering one question in three (or more) ways or can look at the subject in three or more ways or whatever.
> - quote - Mr. No
You relate to the listener where they are at. That's what's unique about you. I like that.
> - new - 3bird -
Unique? Not hereabouts, I don't think so at all. I am perhaps, at least, "unique"; relate to "where they are at", no, not so much, for either party.
I can readily enough observe how other U's don't relate easily to this U.
The onus is on me then, to make up that distance, if there is to be beneficial multilateral communication at all, right?
> - quote - 3bird
I opted from the start to try to limit the threads I have started so that people can get a sense of 'my voice(s)' and how that differs from many of the normal kinds of 'voices' that people might generally adopt when they write. My voice can appear 'schizophrenic' ( once a trendy psychobabble cop out ) or 'bi-polar' ( more recently popular and now remains a trendy psychobabble cop out ) when discussion is linear because of one mind and writing voice considering and speaking to one subject (or whatever) in many ways. Which can hardly be a disorder or dysfunction, if each mode makes it's own kind of reasonable statements.
If all of the various kinds of responses can be placed together in relation to the same or a similar topic or theme it won't look like that nearly so much anymore.
Also, with having
one voice with many tones and timbres always coming from the same place it will sound much differently than when similar sounds pop up all over the place like bird sounds in a forest might do.
> - new - Mr. No ? or old > - quote - 3bird ?
I guess this is where the part about containing multitudes comes in.> - quote 3bird
Also my
points of views can be quite different from the general views with many things. In these ways, the differences can become more clear for others. This way people can either think, 'hmm, I prefer look at this in Mr. Thunks ways instead of the ways these or those others might do or the reverse or whatever. Also others can much more easily understand that often others are looking for a common voice (also for good reasons) when I am attempting to make clearer only one voice with many different qualities and so on.
This way also they can simply count me out of a more commonly held view if there is any more obvious or important difference of some kind and so on.
> - quote - Mr. No
The last few days have been rather cloudy in the head. It seems you have a great grip over the antics of the mind and you're really doing what needs to be done in a more efficient yet eccentric manner.> - quote + amendments - triplethink - 12/04/13
I'm doing that Perfectly Free Robot Code job & building the Moral Nautical Compass stuff out in the full light of the public.
This is so that in the long run maybe some people can have an idea how much work and time is involved in a project like that (as I am sure writing his book was and has been for someone like Daniel).
On behalf of every other appreciative person here and no less so, this U, THANK YOU DANIEL, KENNETH, ET AL. In this case the task is sort of like translating a very old language into a very new language ( when, half of, it doesn't quite exist yet ) and it takes a long time to do this kind of task.
It comes last in my priorities; after all of the other conversations, discussions, debates and other little projects that have already taken off for me here over a couple of weeks. It comes last after all of the other work and play for me here because I have the least hope for that kind of technical language serving most people as effectively and as well as any more every day language can.
It could end up having much more precision and much better organization at some point closer to the other shore of that job and that is about all. I doubt I will ever write a book.
I just like to whip up little ideas into some new confection of some kind. Then I like to watch and see those kinds of novel conceptions or re-conceptions that I put together and tossed out into what I refer to as the general melt (the overall culture in any sense) get picked up by others who might never even guess where these notions popped up from, way back when. This has also been very, very instructive, for me, for a very long time.I like the idea of the general melt. The biggest problem I've noticed with language is that it's just a bunch of symbols and it only points in certain directions. This is why, perhaps, you're using the symbols in as many ways as you can to show the travelers what you can show in ways directly perceivable to them. I'm not going to pretend to understand much of the code work. Consciousness studies is always good.
Phew, sorry to get so technical in the middle of our chat but the particulars in the nature of the person one is addressing and the way the questions are put has a lot to do with how clearly one can respond. Your voice is fresh and your interest open enough to make this very easy to explain here compared to when the conditions closer to the other end of the range. So, I may wander on with something longer than you would wish or may seem appropriate at times simply because others may well be listening to us converse as if we were sitting in a cafe or a park. So, my apologies again, for these little tangents to our immediate conversation, ok?
I'd prefer if you don't embarrass me by being so formal and apologetic about such basic stuff. I'm here to catch everything you can throw at me. I'm just surprised and a little flattered to know you find this humble, level zero, run of the mill it machine interesting. I think it has to do with what you suggested about making an effort to separate what I absolutely know as true from stuff that I absolutely dont know.. and it turns out there isn't much to put into the first category. The more I know the wider the horizons spread making that knowledge feel even smaller than before.
Nope, not at all, whatever we might notice, someone if not many others will have noticed it before us.
Was there ever, somewhere, a first (of its kind) or it's all in parallel ? Or is this the kind of question better left unanswered ?> - new - 3bird
No question lasts long at all if you keep looking for better questions. I've picked up some model kits now that I am working on models of kamma and of being and becoming.
One is the 1804 Steam Loco [108 plastic pcs.] Box quote - "Richard Trevithick was a young engineer who was responsible for one of the most important of all inventions - the first steam locomotive. In 1795 when he was only 25 years old." Next...
'What about if we include 'string theory....'> - quoted - 3bird
Oh man! Now you have struck a note with me (like plucking a guitar string in my body/mind)(but not in any unpleasant way, only that I sure can hear it)!
Yeah, I don't sleep much and never did, often for the same or similar reasons (reasons to do with this body/mind). My father is 79 now and I am about thirty years younger. If I take a rough estimate of about 4 hours sleep per night (which is overly optimistic, about the amount of sleep) over 50 years vs. his 8 then my waking hours are almost the equal of his already! We are beginning to see things much more in the same ways now. This shows us how big of a factor time and experience actually are over one waking lifetime.
I've probably slept more than others of my bodily age. Especially much more than those born in less preferable conditions. Sometimes it's more pleasant to be asleep than to be awake. To not know anything at all than to know that there's so much to know. I like this quote from a movie called "Waking Life" : Most people are either sleep walking through their waking life or wake walking through their sleeping life. Either way they're not getting much out of it.
One more while I'm at it : They say that dreams are only real as long as they last. Couldn't you say the same thing about life?
There's more where it came from : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0243017/quotes> - Would U expect that to be a certain bet? I 'liked' that movie.
> - quote - Mr. No
Some time ago I started a thread here complaining about dreams giving me more real itsy bitsy feelings than the waking life. It's more balanced now. Dreams do have their way of pulling my socks off while I'm asleep.. sometimes more.> - Neu/Neo - 3bird
You are quite, by way of comparison, young, correct? If so much is all still new by default. Attentiveness focusing, and always in as relaxed a state as possible helps a lot, don't take it so serious but you have the organic basis to stay on top of things. It will not be easier as you go as far as energy stamina, etc, etc.. It is not so important what you give attention to if you give full attention. So long as it is not a harmful or non-beneficial practice but no one explains to the young any more that this is a race against yourself. You have to make the yardage when you are young, when you get older time will f___ with you and you will NOT BE ABLE to do what you can easily do now and then you will be TOTALLY F___KED. That locker room enough for you?
Well, to be completely honest again, we can't really count on much of anything in samsara. This is simply its nature and it as true within us as it is without. So, we can expect changes all the time. But it is very helpful to understand our intentions, if we know these then we have a better sense of things regardless of the changes. My intention is to continue the conversations, especial with you for as long as this is generally wholesome and beneficial for all of us. So, again, I look forward to continuing our conversation for as long as you like. Much appreciation on this end as well.
> -quote - Mr. No
In a less lazier time, I 'll combine all our talk in a single word file and keep it for reference later on when I need to look back.. as these threads have become a little exhaustive. I haven't been keeping up lately with all the stuff being posted around here.
My social camouflage has become rather demanding. All wholesome feelings are mutual.> - new 3bird -
Go for it, just send me back bits and bytes at a time, puhleeeeeeeeeeeeeeez.
> -quote - triplethink
I don't really know about my health or what is going to happen to my body except that it feels much closer to stopping working at all than it does to being a new and perfectly healthy body. I've never cared for this body much, it is an excellent body but there is a lot about my mind that would be much more pleased to find that it didn't have one. I've accepted that and I do my best for this body now, but I feel the same way about this as I ever did. I have no doubt I would be more pleased to give up bodies altogether, than to have to wear another one again another time. So if wearing a body happens again for a mind, such as might result from the perceptions of previous mind anything like this one, (and this is how all of this has been moving along in this life) it would probably be even more ambivalent about doing so. Anyhow, don't fret about this body, I don't at all (apart from treating it like a car at the shop for repairs). For me it is more like dragging a heavy stone behind me everywhere I go and always has been. It is hard for any of us to give something that is also always a heavy burden its full and proper respect.
Let's just say that I'm fine and leave it at that. As I have said this ease has very few, if any, concerns about this body. I am going to continue attempting to behave with others as if I am perfectly well until this body doesn't work at all. That will be the best and the simplest way for all of us to think about that, for this mind and body. So please, set any concerns like that aside. This is what I do.
I certainly don't know why either of us are here or anything else to be honest. I have no idea what the complete picture looks like, and whatever understanding I have stems from selective understandings of the perceptions I've glimpsed so far. I wish that things go smoothly and whatever is left to be done is done. I shall try to remember this when my car gets wrecked or needs some repairs.
I have been looking forward to our conversation continuing; simply because, so far, for my part, it has been the most easygoing and pleasant one I am having here at DhO. So when it is time for you to move on, I will wish you well. For so long as you would like to continue to converse and discuss the Dhamma, the Neo-Dhamma or life in general, I will welcome it. Ok?
> -quote - Mr. No
So have I, so do I.
I'm not going to pretend that I understand much of it or I try to. However, I do wish the endeavor doesn't go futile. Maybe when a more complete picture starts to appear things will become more clear.
I think (so far as this has been since my return and involvement again) it already seems to me, it would be simpler, if for as long as I can add to or clarify old posts, it will keep everything simpler, for me. This would help to keep the threads I am involved in regularly to a minimum, and it will be easier for everyone if I can continue to add to past posts that are already taking up space. It only becomes more difficult to follow many different conversations otherwise especially when many conversations and various different conversations are going on involving many different writers and many different voices.
Hummmmmmmmmm.
I speak and use words in many different ways depending on the listener(s). Another aspect of this is that it can become confusing for others when I speak to some question two or three or more different ways. So if the question has already been asked one or two other ways it would be better to put all of the answers in one post and show more clearly where these are different answers to the same question or something similar to that. This way others will see that I am answering one question in three (or more) ways or can look at the subject in three or more ways or whatever.
You relate to the listener where they are at. That's what's unique about you. I like that.
I opted from the start to try to limit the threads I have started so that people can get a sense of 'my voice(s)' and how that differs from many of the normal kinds of 'voices' that people might generally adopt when they write. My voice can appear schizophrenic when discussion is linear because of one mind and writing voice considering and speaking to one subject (or whatever) in many ways. If all of the various kinds of responses can be placed together in relation to the same or a similar topic or theme it won't look like that nearly so much anymore. Also, with having one voice with many tones and timbres always coming from the same place it will sound much differently than when similar sounds pop up all over the place like bird sounds in a forest might do.
I guess this is where the part about containing multitudes comes in.
Also my points of views can be quite different from the general views with many things. In these ways, the differences can become more clear for others. This way people can either think, 'hmm, I prefer look at this in Mr. Thunks ways instead of the ways these or those others might do or the reverse or whatever. Also others can much more easily understand that often others are looking for a common voice (also for good reasons) when I am attempting to make clearer only one voice with many different qualities and so on. This way also they can simply count me out of a more commonly held view if there is any more obvious or important difference of some kind and so on.
> -quote - Mr. No
The last few days have been rather cloudy in the head. It seems you have a great grip over the antics of the mind and you're really doing what needs to be done in a more efficient yet eccentric manner.I like the idea of the general melt. The biggest problem I've noticed with language is that it's just a bunch of symbols and it only points in certain directions. This is why, perhaps, you're using the symbols in as many ways as you can to show the travelers what you can show in ways directly perceivable to them. I'm not going to pretend to understand much of the code work. Consciousness studies is always good.
> - quote + amendments - triplethink
It's a question of what attracts the touch; eye, ear, nose, mouth, skin, mind, etc.. isn't it?
Phew, sorry to get so technical in the middle of our chat but the particulars in the nature of the person one is addressing and the way the questions are put has a lot to do with how clearly one can respond. Your voice is fresh and your interest open enough to make this very easy to explain here compared to when the conditions closer to the other end of the range. So, I may wander on with something longer than you would wish or may seem appropriate at times simply because others may well be listening to us converse as if we were sitting in a cafe or a park. So, my apologies again, for these little tangents to our immediate conversation, ok?
> - quote - Mr. No
I'd prefer if you don't embarrass me by being so formal and apologetic about such basic stuff. I'm here to catch everything you can throw at me. I'm just surprised and a little flattered to know you find this humble, level zero, run of the mill it machine interesting. I think it has to do with what you suggested about making an effort to separate what I absolutely know as true from stuff that I absolutely dont know.. and it turns out there isn't much to put into the first category. The more I know the wider the horizons spread making that knowledge feel even smaller than before. quote + amendments - triplethink
Nope, not at all, whatever we might notice, someone if not many others will have noticed it before us.
Am I amp-ing up the testosterone levels and adding a hint of irascibility adequately yet?
Was there ever, somewhere, a first (of its kind) or it's all in parallel ? Or is this the kind of question better left unanswered ?
Oh man! Now you have struck a note with me (like plucking a guitar string in my body/mind)(but not in any unpleasant way, only that I sure can hear it)!
Yeah, I don't sleep much and never did, often for the same or similar reasons (reasons to do with this body/mind). My father is 79 now and I am about thirty years younger. If I take a rough estimate of about 4 hours sleep per night (which is overly optimistic, about the amount of sleep) over 50 years vs. his 8 then my waking hours are almost the equal of his already! We are beginning to see things much more in the same ways now. This shows us how big of a factor time and experience actually are over one waking lifetime.
I've probably slept more than others of my bodily age. Especially much more than those born in less preferable conditions. Sometimes it's more pleasant to be asleep than to be awake. To not know anything at all than to know that there's so much to know. I like this quote from a movie called "Waking Life" :
Most people are either sleep walking through their waking life or wake walking through their sleeping life. Either way they're not getting much out of it.One more while I'm at it :
They say that dreams are only real as long as they last. Couldn't you say the same thing about life?There's more where it came from : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0243017/quotes
Some time ago I started a thread here complaining about dreams giving me more real itsy bitsy feelings than the waking life. It's more balanced now. Dreams do have their way of pulling my socks off while I'm asleep.. sometimes more.
I'm pleased to see that at least one person can see this, which is why I am so pleased to converse with you and I hope we can continue in this for a while. It will help with all of the conversations if people can see how I do relate as often as possible in plain language but that I am not at all distressed to try any other approach that also might work. I was very concerned before I returned that I would be speaking to a vacuum in these regards (merits, virtues, demerits, shortcomings), not because there aren't many people who can sense what you can or sense it even more strongly, but because this theme has been a bit of a hot potato around the DhO for various reasons.
I whole heartedly agree and the feelings are mutual. My guess is that as one pushes through ignorance then "one" automatically realizes what must be dropped in order to go further, and sometimes this takes a long time when someone is persistently holding onto certain things for various reasons. I like the parable expressed by Mr. Goenkaji at the end of his infamous Vipassana courses. It's like a child being presented with a delicious traditional Indian milk pudding, most lovingly prepared by his mother. The child refuses to eat the pudding because he cannot appreciate some of the garnishings and ingredients vital to the recipe. He feels they may be stones or some other inedible stuff and the mother is unable to reason with persistent toddler. So the mother, asks the Child to separate these things and eat the rest of the pudding realizing that eventually as the Child matures; he will understand why the other ingredients are vital, and that they have their own tastes, flavors and so on that must come together to complete the recipe.
This is very direct, which is another reason why I like how your writing voice sounds for me when I read you. Maybe more direct than most people would tolerate from me. So right away we can see how it helps simply to have someone else pick up on this and say this more directly as opposed to my simply offering it up in a more direct way to begin with.
I will slowly try to bring in more directness and clarity to any conversation, if I can, over time. More often than not if I begin that way more people are more likely to be very put off by my initial approach. Anything could as easily be put in a very direct but what then might well also appear as a very harsh way to some people.
I've felt from that start that honesty goes a long way. I've nothing to gain from validating or invalidating you, myself or anyone else. Truth is an axiom and is not subject to these mental impressions. What needs to be done needs to be done and there's no way sweet talking around it. When a child is sick and refuses to take the bitter medicine, then sometimes the mother/guardian must use force out of compassion for the child's own good.
This is something that, for all its secularity, does not change very much in a secular context. No matter what or how someone may say whatever they do say to you, they will be expecting a respectful response. This is usually the funniest when conversing with very secular minded people (and especially people who are very culturally unrefined themselves in one or another ways) who may like to think that they are past these kinds of issues. Especially when very often they haven't thought these issues through very far and maybe haven't even considered some of these sensitivities and difficulties as seriously as they could.
When you don't reflect the same way for long enough, then some steam is lost and maybe perception becomes more clear. Other than that, how ill fated of you to question the most refined members of society Mr Think !
As I've always been hinting, I'm not afraid to tackle this 'hot potato' if no one else will. We've heard the old saying, 'Fools rush in where Angels Fear to Tread?" I am just that sort of a fool. If there is something a saint would run away from talking about I will run right towards it because the last thing I want to be treated like it is as a saint.
This is why sometimes fools get done more than angels or saints. I assume they all have a place in the big picture.
Not much of anything is, I am sorry to say.
Perhaps we can only make the more compassionate choice as long as we feel we're making the choices. Ultimately subtle qualities of the mind are being cultivated which go a long way in the old haul. Back in time when I did consume meat, I noticed significant changes in my mind and body. There was a marked increase in craving, aversion, reaction, anger, greed. The only positive aspect was that my body mass significantly increased and it was much easier to build muscle back when I was still pumping iron and concerned with that kind of stuff.
This plucks a couple of other strings in my body/mind for sure. Food and bugs are subjects which, in a practical ways, start to look very different when you begin to see the many dimensions of what might be perceived about these interrelationships.
Very interesting areas of intellectual dwelling for me. Old orthodox me feels better to avoid gaining indirect knowledge of what is not yet directly seen to avoid speculation.
Just try to give balance to these perceptions because if it is not a misperception to begin with then it has a place in a more complete insight, knowledge and understanding which, as always, is more healthy if it includes many real or true or valid perceptions in an appropriate balance to what and how our conditions actually are arranged, at least at a given time and place.
Hmmm. Things kind of balance themselves out as more and more socks are removed.
Well, to be completely honest again, we can't really count on much of anything in samsara. This is simply its nature and it as true within us as it is without. So, we can expect changes all the time. But it is very helpful to understand our intentions, if we know these then we have a better sense of things regardless of the changes. My intention is to continue the conversations, especial with you for as long as this is generally wholesome and beneficial for all of us. So, again, I look forward to continuing our conversation for as long as you like. Much appreciation on this end as well.
In a less lazier time, I 'll combine all our talk in a single word file and keep it for reference later on when I need to look back.. as these threads have become a little exhaustive. I haven't been keeping up lately with all the stuff being posted around here.
My social camouflage has become rather demanding. All wholesome feelings are mutual.
> - new - 3bird
Yeah, the 'social camouflage' has been a 44 year project for me, since, age 5, and a very steep uphill learning curve on a course that only gets steeper in a program that I will never get paid for in anything but spit and knuckles, I had braces in high school and ate a lot of blood...
In this part of Samsara I've rarely come across people who are so direct and so open.> - new - 3bird -
Well, one moment please... profanity sensitive types please remove small children or click away. I don't either, so although I have nothing but tolerance for irritating and unpleasant beings from people to bugs if it isn't an issue or concern of U's F-them, right?
I find these moments less mundane, more exciting in general and always appreciate such encounters. Funny that we came here, in this little loka to amuse each other with this dubious form of communication in this moment. As you suggested, our path becomes more obvious as there's more to look at in the rear view mirror. There has been a higher force/intelligence protecting, guiding, showing and keeping safe distance away from the fires of the world. It does what needs to be done to ensure I do what needs to be done and avoid what needs to be avoided. As time passes by it's more obvious, more in plain sight, less subtle almost flirting with me. > - new - 3bird -
Yes, we have to meet in the middle somewhere, somehow or else........ ...... .... .. . . . .
One thing I was curious about.. I haven't been practicing much lately but I've been having those itchy sensations a lot lately, especially on the top of my head. It's been like this since I started. Sometimes when I'm motivated and go all in, it becomes so dandruffy that it's almost like snowfall when I rub my scalp. I've tried everything, including homeopathy but nothing really helps. An assistant teacher told me that this work feels stressful until upekkha is fully established and from there things are chilled out.
Yours truly, as far as reasonable,
Mr. N - Sweet Nothing> - new - 3bird
Itching as Objects of Meditation - Tips for Life, on and off the Mat
Cold water washing, less hot or cold in shower, soap that is very simple, no scents or exotic oils, such as found in soap making supply shops, goat milk base, maybe a couple other ingredients. When lying down, sitting standing or walking make a note of not scratching, make that a first step in practice, no touching and just note "itchy", do not touch ever and watch the sensations. It is a discipline.
Wicked Workout Dude!
whew, let's take a more 'measured' approach ongoing, agreed?
-triplethink