Hello...my post just died from a miss-click; here's to number two making it and to making since!
By the way, welcome to the DhO!
k a steger:
Trent: Regarding "why aren't you enjoying right now?" as a response to dark night/existential angst.
If you're not enjoying right now due to a response to the dark night/existential angst, you are going to find it nearly impossible to leave the dark night or learn from it (at least so long as this keeps up). The dark night cannot be solved by any sort of emotional denial-- as I alluded to above; by doing so, you are perpetually locked in a cycle of dark nightly feelings.
k a steger:
Your question may come across as demoting the experience of the objects of dark night/ proper dark night digestion. (DN probiotics?)
I do not understand...could you rephrase and/or elaborate?
k a steger:
For example, living near a slaughter facility, in a drug-dealing community, amid an aggregate of social services for damaged veterans, jobless, and 'disabled', by a leaky waste site... well, a man is moaning in the rain outside of my house after a long day of the same. Why aren't he and I enjoying right now? Hmmm. Do I need to be enjoying right now? Does he?
I do not know why you and he are not enjoying right now, as not enjoying right now does nothing to change the conditions experienced right now to whatever it is you would rather have be the case. Also, I do not know if you or he 'need' to enjoy right now...that is a choice one makes for oneself.
k a steger:
What is the better object in 'enjoying right now' versus sensing right now? A lot of I's need to be enjoying right now and that hunger causes a prolific hullabaloo. Granted, so too DN causes such hullabaloo.
I'm not sure what you're saying or asking here...could you rephrase and/or elaborate?
k a steger:
"Successfully getting out of Dark Night" is biased framing. What about successfully getting into it?
Well...I suppose there is a way to get in and a way to get out, and depending upon one's aim, one is either successful or not. Is there an implicit point here you are making? (I am missing it if so).
k a steger:
Trent, Guilherme, anyone: what are your thoughts on the DN too long, too much?
They neither need be too long, nor too much; though I certainly understand when that is experienced to be the case.
Trent