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6/11/14 7:52 PM
My concentration skills are good, I maintain focus on the movement of my abdomen for an hour sit.  Maybe a few minor wobbles here and there.

I have read MCTB all the way through, and a few other books.
I'm working on the 'mind and body' stage, I'm reading that at some point there will be the object, and the knowing of the object.

Is this something that will happen on its own, I just have to keep practicing and it'll happen..  or can I point my mind in a certain direction to try to see this more clearly?  I'm really trying to zero in on the movement in my abdomen, and at the same time watch how I'm noting the rising and falling.  It's not very granular at this point, I can't break the solidity of the two things.

I have a 10-day retreat at the end of June (my first) with a Sayadaw, I want to hit the ground running.

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6/12/14 2:45 AM as a reply to cmm.
hi cmm and welcome on DhO

try to note not not only during meditation session but every time you can do that, when you walk, doing some tasks, driving a bike, when you get emotional (eg. you want to hit someone in a face) you note given emotion rather than acting upon it, when you feel like you do something etc. Note breaths, steps, all hand movements, all seen motion in world around you, all sensations you can.

final point of these practices is to be in samadhi, meditative state all the time and practicing noting that way right from the start will help you achieve that goal. Not only will it speed up development but also make issues like 'how to integrate insight into daily life' non existent because you will integrate it on daily basis.

also imho point of vipassana is to notice sensations in serialized series of events at very high speed. Your 'solidified' sensation is just a bunch of very high speed sensations kinda next to each other (though this is illusion too and the one to be seen through)

There are mind modes or states or whatever which make everything more visible as flickering, even so called solidified objects. Those are called vipassana jhanas, especially 4th one is unforgiving and sees through everything as flickering aggregate no matter what you look at. It even sees solidified (samatha) jhanas as just millions of flickering sensations, even so called self, or field of consciousness (in which its solidity is not that solid anymore). Though its not like vipassana jhanas are the way to see flickering of sensations with some resolution but completely other way around: vipassana jhanas are available only because you are able to notice flickering of sensations with high enough resolution. When you are skilled enough you will be always in some form of jhana, some form of samadhi - that is the point of meditative practice, not some magic mystical thunderbolt striking event that will make you happy

you just have to practice for some time and you will surely get there. Especially because you seem to do serious meditation and are willing to go on retreats it might not take you all that long. Few years tops =)

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6/13/14 5:13 PM as a reply to Paweł K.
Thanks for the reply Pawel,

I am making effort to stay mindful, and note, throughout the day.  I'm surprised at how quickly it has become habit, kind of my default mode of walking around and doing things.  I'm not listening to the radio or music much anymore, I prefer to just stay with my current task.

> Though its not like vipassana jhanas are the way to see flickering of sensations with some resolution but completely other way around: vipassana jhanas are available only because you are able to notice flickering of sensations with high enough resolution.

I know what you mean, this makes sense. 

I attended a class yesterday, the teacher gave me some applicable tips.  I'm no longer trying to see the mental impression of my physical meditation object, that seems a bit advanced for now.  I'm trying to break the movement of my abdomen into start, middle, end of the in breath..  pause..  start, middle, end of the out breath.  Really drilling down and trying to notice distinct parts of the cycle, strengthening my ability to increase resolution.

Peace,

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6/14/14 5:57 PM as a reply to cmm.
It sounds like you are doing well so far! Thank you for your commitment.

I find the key to 'hitting the ground running' is master the skill that you'll be taught/using in the retreat as soon as possible. Meaning; meditate as much as you can everyday (3-4+ hours), stay as mindful as you can throughout your day and stay confident in your ability to get SE.

Something I found that helped was 'desensitizing' myself to 'pleasures'. What I mean by that is help your mind lower it's craving by not eating foods you REALLY want to eat, just eat to get the nutrition. Don't move out of a little discomfort. Try to stop fidgeting, try not listen to music/wearing cologne/perfume or deoderant. Essentially try to live a 'boring' life while on this practice. This helped me crave less because I wasn't indulging as much.

Good luck emoticon you can do it.

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6/14/14 10:21 PM as a reply to Travis Gene McKinstry.
Travis Gene McKinstry:
Try to stop ...wearing ... deoderant.


Umm, for the sake of all the other yogis...please do wear an unscented deodorant, and if you are not a vegetarian bring some Beano.
Thanks in advance,
~D

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6/16/14 12:24 PM as a reply to Dream Walker.
Dream Walker:
Travis Gene McKinstry:
Try to stop ...wearing ... deoderant.


Umm, for the sake of all the other yogis...please do wear an unscented deodorant, and if you are not a vegetarian bring some Beano.
Thanks in advance,
~D
hahaha that's hilarious... I was mearly making the point of dulling down your environment so you're not pulled out of meditation easily.

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6/16/14 12:46 PM as a reply to Travis Gene McKinstry.
Theoretically, if one uses one's sharp, manly scent as the primary object of meditation, and clearly perceives the impermanence, suffering, and lack of any permanent self in those sensations, could one gain stream entry via one's own BO?

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6/16/14 1:31 PM as a reply to cmm.
cmm:
Theoretically, if one uses one's sharp, manly scent as the primary object of meditation, and clearly perceives the impermanence, suffering, and lack of any permanent self in those sensations, could one gain stream entry via one's own BO?
You would have to dig a little deeper.... like here - http://www.dharmaoverground.org/discussion/-/message_boards/message/1402229 Perhaps you could try it out yourself and tell us the results? pragmatically of course. emoticon
~D

Edit: Sigh....I miss Tommy...