interesting thread. reminds me of why Tibetan monks engage in debates as part of their practice. see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHE680sxJiA
but since i'm one of those who have yet to experience stream entry, then i'll just watch from the sidelines and see what transpires.
that said, i'd like to offer my two cents. if realization can't be clearly captured in words, why attempt to settle this on an online forum with written text? most anything can be faked with written text. i remember Shinzen Young's response when he was asked how he knows when someone has an awakening experience. his answer was that he can tell it by observing the subtle *movements* and *behavior*, as well as the way they *talk*.
in short? do you seriously think you can settle this in a purely online forum?
that is all. i'll leave the floor to the "titans"

~C