<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" version="2.0"> <channel> <title>Getting enough sleep during Mahasi Noting Retreat</title> <link>http://www.dharmaoverground.org/c/message_boards/find_thread?p_l_id=&amp;threadId=5545074</link> <description>Getting enough sleep during Mahasi Noting Retreat</description> <pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2014 01:37:30 GMT</pubDate> <dc:date>2014-10-19T01:37:30Z</dc:date> <item> <title>RE: Getting enough sleep during Mahasi Noting Retreat</title> <link>http://www.dharmaoverground.org/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=&amp;messageId=5546216</link> <description>I was told by a senior guy that a midday nap will &amp;#039;wreck&amp;#039; any mindfulness/momentum that you&amp;#039;ve built up that day.   So if it&amp;#039;s absolutely necessary, you should sleep in, or go to sleep early, so you can push through and make progress in a continuous stretch.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Any comments on this opinion?  I&amp;#039;m guessing it probably depends on what stage you&amp;#039;re at, a midday nap probably isn&amp;#039;t going to matter too much to someone at a beginner level?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks,</description> <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2014 17:53:27 GMT</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dharmaoverground.org/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=&amp;messageId=5546216</guid> <dc:creator>cmm</dc:creator> <dc:date>2014-06-16T17:53:27Z</dc:date> </item> <item> <title>RE: Getting enough sleep during Mahasi Noting Retreat</title> <link>http://www.dharmaoverground.org/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=&amp;messageId=5546158</link> <description>The Buddha advocated skipping dinner for the same reasons you mention, detachment and clarity. In many shamanic cultures, a shaman would eat a light breakfast and nothing else for the day if he expected to do serious shamanic work in the evening.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&amp;#039;d recommend packing on a few extra pounds before the retreat so that malnutrition isn&amp;#039;t a concern. But honestly, when you are meditating throughout the day, you use very few calories, especially if you find yourself way up in the formless realms for any length of time [citation needed]</description> <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2014 12:26:18 GMT</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dharmaoverground.org/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=&amp;messageId=5546158</guid> <dc:creator>Eric M W</dc:creator> <dc:date>2014-06-16T12:26:18Z</dc:date> </item> <item> <title>RE: Getting enough sleep during Mahasi Noting Retreat</title> <link>http://www.dharmaoverground.org/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=&amp;messageId=5546031</link> <description>Thanks everyone for chiming in. I will give it a shot and see if the body adjusts to the schedule and if not, try to take naps during breaks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also wondering about the food schedule. They only do breakfast and lunch, and the rest of the time is a fast. I&amp;#039;ve done several retreats 40 days to 2 months long, where I&amp;#039;ve lost a ton a of weight from these kinds of eating schedules. WHile I felt good, when getting back to family, everyone worried I was malnutrioned.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will say though, that fasting is good over all for clarity, detachment, and a new study just came out that shows that it rebuilds the immune system with a fresh restart.</description> <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2014 02:32:29 GMT</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dharmaoverground.org/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=&amp;messageId=5546031</guid> <dc:creator>IAMTHAT That Ami</dc:creator> <dc:date>2014-06-16T02:32:29Z</dc:date> </item> <item> <title>RE: Getting enough sleep during Mahasi Noting Retreat</title> <link>http://www.dharmaoverground.org/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=&amp;messageId=5546024</link> <description>I&amp;#039;ve never been on retreat, but I can say that the general conensus across the Buddhist retreat world is this-- your need for sleep will go down on-retreat.  Don&amp;#039;t worry about it &lt;img alt="emoticon" src="http://www.dharmaoverground.org/dho-theme/images/emoticons/happy.gif" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&amp;#039;m an 8-9 hour type of guy myself.</description> <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2014 02:14:12 GMT</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dharmaoverground.org/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=&amp;messageId=5546024</guid> <dc:creator>Eric M W</dc:creator> <dc:date>2014-06-16T02:14:12Z</dc:date> </item> <item> <title>RE: Getting enough sleep during Mahasi Noting Retreat</title> <link>http://www.dharmaoverground.org/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=&amp;messageId=5546000</link> <description>&lt;div class="quote-title"&gt;IAMTHAT That Ami:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="quote"&gt;&lt;div class="quote-content"&gt; So in my case, if my body doesnt get 8-8.5 a day of sleep, then the whole day is pretty much filled with physical weakness and is a very miserable day, eyes irritated/red, eventual exahustion, etc. The whole family line on both sides of my family pretty much need this 8, or else the day is ruined.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now believe me, I have plenty of friends who only need 5-6 hours and they function just fine. Well that&amp;#039;s not the case for me, though I wish it was.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I could have written this as well: this describes me exactly! and I also start getting a cold. While I&amp;#039;ve only been on one retreat, I definitely still needed the full amount of sleep, so I just skipped the 4:30-6:30 meditation session. Even so, I was suffering from lack of sleep by the end (10 days).</description> <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2014 01:14:51 GMT</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dharmaoverground.org/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=&amp;messageId=5546000</guid> <dc:creator>J C</dc:creator> <dc:date>2014-06-16T01:14:51Z</dc:date> </item> <item> <title>RE: Getting enough sleep during Mahasi Noting Retreat</title> <link>http://www.dharmaoverground.org/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=&amp;messageId=5545861</link> <description>I have this thing of waking up at 5 each morning, so I may have some little sleep training there, although I usualy crash aroun 10 each night.That said when I did my first retreat it started with 6 hour nights that slowly receded to 5.. then 4 and eventually 72 hrs non stop.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I found that as the overall schedule was hours of meditation which hightens relaxation and concentration it wasn&amp;#039;t a problem. Which I didn&amp;#039;t expected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think that in a retreat setting the hrs aren&amp;#039;t a problem. If they become a problem. I&amp;#039;d suggest talking to your meditation teacher there about it, or just cut short the day and turn in an hour early if you get overwhelmed by sleep.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With Love&lt;br /&gt;Eelco</description> <pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2014 10:59:18 GMT</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dharmaoverground.org/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=&amp;messageId=5545861</guid> <dc:creator>Eelco ten Have</dc:creator> <dc:date>2014-06-15T10:59:18Z</dc:date> </item> <item> <title>RE: Getting enough sleep during Mahasi Noting Retreat</title> <link>http://www.dharmaoverground.org/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=&amp;messageId=5545092</link> <description>I am also a serious sleeper: I like 9-10 when I can get it, and sometimes will sleep 12-14 hours a night for a few nights after particularly long runs of shifts. I definitely don&amp;#039;t do as well in daily life on less than 8.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, that all said, retreats are clearly different somehow. While that morning bell at 4:30am or whatever can be pretty painful, somehow I can drop my sleep down on retreats and do just fine, sometimes to as little as 4 hours, and during the A&amp;amp;P have cut it down to about 2 very naturally for a few days, though I generally don&amp;#039;t recommend going that low unless your body is really feeling like it is ok. I definitely don&amp;#039;t recommend cutting out sleep entirely, as some macho people will do at times, as I think that makes the crazy end of things more likely.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, I wouldn&amp;#039;t worry about it. Also, sometimes in the schedule is a brief rest/shower/whatever period after lunch: might take a quick nap then, can really help if you are sleepy.</description> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2014 21:15:26 GMT</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dharmaoverground.org/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=&amp;messageId=5545092</guid> <dc:creator>Daniel M. Ingram</dc:creator> <dc:date>2014-06-13T21:15:26Z</dc:date> </item> <item> <title>Getting enough sleep during Mahasi Noting Retreat</title> <link>http://www.dharmaoverground.org/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=&amp;messageId=5545073</link> <description>So I&amp;#039;m planning a Mahasi Retreat for September at the Tathagata Center in the Bay area, and was just going over the schedule, and notced the 6.5 hours a night sleep schedule. That&amp;#039;s something that could be rough for me physically and I&amp;#039;m wondering how to go about this seeming block/prohibition from me being able to go do this retreat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OF course everyone is built differently, fat/skinny, smart/stupid, health/sick, tall/short, and all the multitude of dynamics inbetween those dualities exist as well. So in my case, if my body doesnt get 8-8.5 a day of sleep, then the whole day is pretty much filled with physical weakness and is a very miserable day, eyes irritated/red, eventual exahustion, etc. The whole family line on both sides of my family pretty much need this 8, or else the day is ruined.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now believe me, I have plenty of friends who only need 5-6 hours and they function just fine. Well that&amp;#039;s not the case for me, though I wish it was.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So are naps during breaks suitable to fix this situation? Or is it more preferable to just do a self retreat that is better revolved around my own itinarary/sleep schedule?</description> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2014 18:20:58 GMT</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.dharmaoverground.org/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=&amp;messageId=5545073</guid> <dc:creator>IAMTHAT That Ami</dc:creator> <dc:date>2014-06-13T18:20:58Z</dc:date> </item> </channel> </rss> 