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RE: What Do You Tell Them?
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Reading my earlier comments here, I realize what I meant to discuss was the questions people would ask me about going on retreat rather than practice. If I said, "I am glad for a chance to go on...
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Forum: Dharma Overground Discussion Forum I have been reading many old threads and realized that some continue to drink alcohol or do drugs. Since starting Vipassana in the Goenka tradition and...
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Author: josh0 I do drink alcohol and practice, but I've definitely found that the more alcohol and drink or the closer my drinking is in time to my practice the greater the detrimental effect. For...
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Hi Nick, I don't think that drinking in moderation poses a major obstacle at all. I drink on occasion and I've found it doesn't effect my practice or realization whatsoever. It's been a while since...
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From a strictly pragmatic point of view, drinking alcohol inhibits mindfulness if one is attempting to be mindful while still under the affects of intoxication. That said, it makes sense why...
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Correction... what I meant to say in the second paragraph is "there's nothing wrong with moderate alcohol consumption for lay practitioners who DO NOT spend the whole day practicing." Sorry about...
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(stands) My name is Florian and I have a problem. Not only do I sometimes drink intoxicating liquids, but I'm also not above nicking the odd ball-point pen at the office, talking idle nonsense or...
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I firmly disagree on that one. The aim is not to be able to drink without remorse. The aim is to get more kind and compassionate, to be able to concentrate, and to gain liberating insight. Cheers,...
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Hi Florian, I did not intend for my comment to be taken that way. I apologize for not being more clear. I agree with what you state as the aim of the practice. By "let go," I didn't mean "dismiss...
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Author: josh0 I had never thought about it that way before, but that makes a lot of sense. On the other hand, does the fact that it's so difficult to keep the first four precepts absolutely justify...
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So, it seems that quite a few of you drink the occasional drop of alcohol. Can you say that it has absoltuely no affect on your progress? I am curious about this becuase I DO feel a little affected...
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So what are going to trust, other's opinions or your experience?
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Hehehe, yes, I know. But if there are meditators attaining stream entry AND having a beer now and then, I´d like to know about it.. I may be a bit too hardcore for my own good. I know I´m sounding...
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This thread got me looking at the Suttas over at Access to Insight. From the Vipaka Sutta (AN 8.40): "The drinking of fermented & distilled liquors — when indulged in, developed, & pursued — is...
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Hi Jackson, I was specifically disagreeing with your tongue-in-cheek remark about letting go of aversion to drinking, because it implied that drinking alcohol was not the issue. Like you, I think...
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Hi Josh, That's where the active, doing, practicing aspect of keeping the silas really gets going. Pay close attention to the two words "I" in that sentence. Is it the same voice in each case?...
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Hi Nick, One of the most hardcore monks I know has this unusual interpretation of the fetter of "rites and rituals", silabattaparamasa: according to him (or rather, his teacher, Ven. Ajahn Maha...
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Alcohol (and meat), sex, and money... often we find some sort of controversy around these. In traditional Buddhism, there is vinaya, and there is shila, not to be confused. In Asia, vinaya is...
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Just out of curiosity, would you believe such a claim? If someone said they had entered the stream, and they drank the occasional alcoholic beverage, would you believe them? What criteria is needed...
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Dear Nick, Sorry I missed this thread and didn't respond earlier. Direct answer: I do not drink alcohol and this has nothing to do with dharma practice, just that my few experiments in late college...
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