tom moylan:
could be called "RT - the long way around"
good advice...good listen
thanks
The long way around?
I think RT can only take you as far as stream entry. The seeing through of a falsehood of self. But the sense of feeling of "me" is still arising as is all the flow of affective feeling. They are one and the same as far as I see it, as does Ayya Khema and the actualists. Even if you re-term the flow of affect "life-ing" or "life" or whatever and stop calling it "me", it still flows as a reactionary conditioned mess. You now know a "self" is illusory yet one can act like a selfish self is still there, acting out of anger, greed, and fear. Why is that? Correct me if I am wrong any RTers, but they all seem to profess that the flow of affect continues after their realisation.
MCTB 4th path ( Not the arahat of the pali canon) also only leaves you with "feelings" unsticky and the centre point dropped away, but still arising as more phenomena. I think Ayya Khema is talking about the real deal arahat where she points to it being free from all feelings, as feelings are "me". Even if you have seen through the illusion of a personal identity, there is still the flow of conditioned becoming (ie. affect) to end ...or not.
Ayya Khema was too cool for school. You can find more of her talks, which are highly recommended, and highly antimushroom, as she seems to insinuate all over the place that she was a highly advanced (possibly AF) yogi, here:
http://ayyakhematalks.org/
and
http://www.dharmaseed.org/teacher/334/:-)