Nikolai .:
End in Sight:
Nikolai .:
f I forget to pay attention to it, well it is what I have called 'shadow being'. I have talked with others about such a term. It is not the best term to convey the experience. People project all sorts of ideas onto what it is. I don't think it can be imagined at all. But it is 'shadow' like. It just doesn't have the tangibly mentally felt sense of existing as the full blown 'being' did.
If it helps, my experience of it is that it presents as a random mental fluctuation of some sort...the mind generating something or doing something that gets in the way of apperception. Not generating a full blown 'self' or sense of existence, just generating or doing...something.
Exactly. That 'something' seems hard to define. But I like the term 'random mental fluctuation'.
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RICHARD: Yes ... a rudimentary animal self, as it were, however inchoate it may be.
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Inchoate:
1. not yet completed or fully developed; rudimentary.
2. just begun; incipient.
3. not organized; lacking order: an inchoate mass of ideas on the subject
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/inchoate
Just a thought.
Anyways let's not twist terms and thus lower standards for things which originally had strict definition. For example: The time that Daniel claimed the same Enlightenment of the Buddha and the Arahats at the time of the Buddha, but technically directly contradicted the criteria of Arahatship in the Pali Canon.
Similarly, if AF is seen as the entire, 100%, unequivocal elimination of Malice and Sorrow. With the elimination of the Instinctual Passions in there ENTIRETY.
Then any experience of those same passions, means you're not AF, it is really that simple.
Nevertheless congratulations Nick, End In Sight and Tommy, it seems that the DhO really can handle/attain/practice whatever is thrown at it.
Just one more thing:
AF Criteria:
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Just for the record, then, here is a by-no-means exhaustive check-list of the main properties pertaining to an actual freedom from the human condition (in addition to the outstandingly magical property spelled-out further above):
1. No identity whatsoever.
2. No affective faculty at all (including its epiphenomenal psychic facility).
3. Utterly impervious to, and freely functioning without, both affective ‘vibes’ and psychic ‘currents’.
4. No separation (an actual intimacy) whatsoever betwixt this body and every body and every thing and every event.
5. Eternal time (no movement of time whatsoever) as expressed in, for instance, ‘this moment has no duration’.
6. Infinite space (the direct experiencing of limitlessness).
7. An apperceptive awareness (whereby all thought emerges from the full field of consciousness) of being alive/being here.
8. As a flesh and blood body only (sans the entire affective faculty/identity in toto) one is this infinite and eternal and perdurable universe experiencing itself as an apperceptive human being ... as such it is stunningly aware of its own infinitude.
And this is truly wonderful.
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