Hi, Tommy, it's not about me at all.
At no point did I say it was.
Sorry you see it like this. I am not framing or not framing, I am just writing the experience. It may seems like to you, but it's just a view.
Nothing to apologize for, I'm curious about your reasons for "just writing the experience" with the headline "Theravada meditation teacher on Realising Anatta through direct pointing" when the person does not appear to have the attainments required to claim to be a teacher. As for framing, I use this term to refer to the way in which you present the story and how your describe it in terms of the conceptual framework used by the RT/direct-pointing crew i.e. that direct-pointing is more effective than meditation, that meditation is not required for enlightenment, that insight into anatta constitutes enlightenment etc.
And this post was about Shane and his message
So why introduce the story with "Theravada meditation teacher on Realising Anatta through direct pointing" if it's about Shane and his message?
"Practice does not stop. Seeking stops...."
I disagree, particularly when we're talking about an insight into anatta which, unless he got MCTB 4th path in that instant, is available to anyone willing to examine their immediate sensate experience. The "insight problem" may stop, although this only really happened at MCTB 4th path for me, but the seeking continues in a completely different way once you know that this is not the end.
That message at the end was very powerful, in simple words, nothing special, everybody say similar thing, but for me the way he presented was penetrating.
You were affected by it, that's fine and dandy, but what he says still remains questionable in terms of facts.
What is really make me joyful is the fact that this went off line. Direct pointing went off line with several teachers, like Shane and others (some from Theravada, some from non-duality). There are people who do direct pointing retreats, face to face guiding people. This is really worth of rejoicing. One of the teachers in France Laurent Levy just finished his 5 day retreat. 20 people saw that there is no separate entity behind word "I". Shane Wilson finished 3 day silent retreat where he was talking about anatta in a more direct way then before, pointing people to see.
If it works, great. I'm all for pragmatism and doing what works. What I'd really like to know though is what these people did with that insight into anatta?
Are they still seeking?
What practices are they doing now?
If 20 people got this insight, what does that actually mean in real terms?
What is it that is so miraculous about direct-pointing that makes it worth talking up and giving it undue weight, while ignoring the effectiveness and reliability of vipassana properly performed and observation of the
three characteristics rather than only anatta?
Insight into anatta is one thing, the realization of it and the eradication of the entire sense of being is something very different.
Tommy, see that some of the people are more inclined to share then others.
I don't understand your reasons for making this statement. Perhaps you're ignoring the fact that I spend quite a substantial amount of time on these forums, and also elsewhere in real life, helping people with their practice by offering advice based on my own practice. I also maintain a blog talking about pragmatic dharma, make videos and spend pretty much all of my time on dharma-related activities in one way or another. I don't do this to talk myself up or anything, like you I am genuinely interested in helping people although I see no reason to post about my apparent "successes" with people as the act of helping is reward enough.
Those who do not share are just fine, as those who do share, and share a lot, like me. There is no really a difference, it is not "somebody" choice really
This is completely unrelated to anything in the response I left.
And so the way I share is the way I can, the way it flows.
Again, the response was no criticism of your style of writing.
I don't see anything bad in it. I know it can come across as the view you presented, but if i start to think about it, how to frame it so not to offend everybody or etc, then I loose inspiration.
It was nothing to do with your style of writing, only your decision to headline the thread with "Theravada meditation teacher on Realising Anatta through direct pointing". I never said anything was "bad", merely inaccurate and not based on fact. You're not offending me and you'd likely find it rather difficult to do so.
Framing may evolve with time.
Could you explain what you mean here?
Right now there is no really active defensiveness from non-duality world, as before, so it did change already in some way. There is nothing for me in this, except spreading the message that this seeing is available, and it's available now, for those who are ready to see.
So you live in an abiding non-dual awareness now? Would you mind describing it, please? I'm genuinely interested to know if you've attained MCTB 4th path through direct-pointing and how you went about as there may be a useful method there, and seemingly not one which uses direct-pointing as the only technique.
I understand that there is nothing for you in this, I never said that and if my comments have been misconstrued then allow me to apologize. Once again I will repeat the one major point that my entire post, and sizeable portion of this one, was trying to address: Why do you choose to headline threads with things like "Theravada meditation teacher on Realising Anatta through direct pointing" when the person involved is not qualified, in terms of attainments at least, to declare himself to be a teacher? Also, why do you always use this same approach when posting i.e. the mentioning of someone's apparently flawed practice history which ends up with them only gaining insight via direct-pointing?
If you could answer those two questions for me and put aside this idea you've got that I'm criticizing your writing style then perhaps we could both learn something from it. One more thing I'd like to mention is that you seem to think I'm still under the illusion of there being an "I", if you believe this to be true then I invite you to open a thread and liberate me on this site. I will participate honestly and follow your instructions to the letter if you choose to take me up on this.