| | there was a very interesting conversation daniel started called something like "again with the arahat,anagami rigpa thing" and the impression on me was it was sort of a challenge to the ideas of rigpa before arahatship nondual vs. development there actually being something like rigpa, as if this rigpa kenneth and his page often talk about is just a cool state that there making a big deal about or something like that. SO, most of us here (or at least I thought) are bgeeks listeners, so Im sure most of us heard the discussion with the author of zen and the brain, for those who havnt here are two main points for this conversation.
1top down attention, 2bottom up attention. top down attention being dualistic attention and bottom up being associated with some sort of lobe on the right half of the brian that acts as a sort of "constant concousness", "choiceless awareness" etc. it is subtler and can be aware of what are usually identified as subjects.
since this is a part of the brain already it does not really need to be developed to be used, "everpresent" I guess. this would be very good for kenneths side of the argument. However I think the two paths of nondual/development cross paths where surprisingly I haven't seen anyone mention and that is in the later nanas before and around fruition, weather first path or later, the ENTIRE SENSATE FIELD becomes the arising and instantly vanishing subject object totality that is identical to what kenneth describes as his third gear, or at least part of it.
Im not for any particular side and have enjoyed the debate very much and just thought this piece was very good for the conversation. sorry if this was already discussed. love,understanding and best wishes, Robert h. , aka ngakpanorbu |