Hi, do i know. Just to clarify:
do i know:So maybe both Richard and Tarin are without affect( do not experience being) but Tarin, having dropped more fetters than Richard may experience lack of affect + lack of something else(call it Y). This may happen regardless of the duration each spent without affect because Y may be a function of another variable.
This is my explanation for why Richard says that actually free people still experience pure intent vs. Tarin's report of the exact opposite in his experience.
That can't be correct. The thing in summary is:
Tarin interpreted "pure intent" as a passional drive (a desire) to eventually get to the purity of the actual world (ie: getting an actual freedom). For example:
As documented at the
AFT Website:
• : (...) what everyone i know who has done this has had in common was the pure intent (to arrive to such a state). this - pure intent - is clearly the most determining factor. (www.dharmaoverground.org/web/guest/discussion/-/message_boards/message/460472#_19_message_460472).
And:
• : something that may also be useful to see: as ‘i’ am ‘my passions’ - which means my emotions, my drives, my desires, *i am thus also my intent*. what you want to have running is this: *‘i’ am pure intent*. [emphases added]. (www.groups.google.com/group/actualism/browse_thread/thread/0beb7f80dd4ca93b/11cd80a11248da87#).
Meanwhile, Richard affirms that
pure intent is (and, at the same time, comes from) the purity of the actual world itself:
Richard: Pure intent is derived from the purity of the PCE (which is when ‘I’ spontaneously cease to ‘be’) and everything is experienced to be perfect as-it-is at this moment and place ... here and now [...] Pure intent is a manifest life-force; a genuinely occurring stream of benevolence and benignity that originates in the perfect and vast stillness that is the essential character of the infinitude of the universe.
As no affective contamination can get into that purity, Tarin then said that he has not pure intent anymore. So, apparently, there are two options here: 1) Tarin is not actually free because he never got in contact with pure intent (purity) or 2) Tarin is actually free despite his misinterpretation of the original term "pure intent". It can't be the case that, in actual freedom and actualism, "pure intent" could be considered a "fetter". Tarin only claimed that he dropped "pure intent" (as another passion) just as he claimed to drop all passions.