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MCTPM ftw!
-- Timus --, geändert vor 10 Jahren at 23.08.13 15:44
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MCTPM ftw!
Beiträge: 47 Beitrittsdatum: 17.05.10 Neueste BeiträgeMatthew, geändert vor 10 Jahren at 23.08.13 16:23
Created 10 Jahren ago at 23.08.13 16:23
RE: MCTPM ftw!
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"But the really cool thing with nirodha, is that when the yogi comes out of it, she or he is super-enlightened. And after this point there is really nothing much left to do for the arhat than to die and enter Nirvana or, in our time and age, open a Skype account and start an online enlightenment service.
Understandably, nirodha has been sort of like the Holy Grail for hardcore meditators and Buddhist geeks for centuries. Thousands and thousands of people have spent millions of hours on their cushions trying to attain this noble stage, but very, very few actually make it there. Despite proof that accomplished meditators actually can get close to a state of more or less permanent brain death), there are also some scholarly types arguing that there is no such thing as nirodha-samapati at all. Generally speaking, the spiritual jury has been out on this issue for a very long time.
Until now."
Amazing.
Understandably, nirodha has been sort of like the Holy Grail for hardcore meditators and Buddhist geeks for centuries. Thousands and thousands of people have spent millions of hours on their cushions trying to attain this noble stage, but very, very few actually make it there. Despite proof that accomplished meditators actually can get close to a state of more or less permanent brain death), there are also some scholarly types arguing that there is no such thing as nirodha-samapati at all. Generally speaking, the spiritual jury has been out on this issue for a very long time.
Until now."
Amazing.
Fitter Stoke, geändert vor 10 Jahren at 23.08.13 17:28
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Oh my god, some of this is really funny...
http://tuttejiorg.wordpress.com/integral-body-mind-market-practice/
http://tuttejiorg.wordpress.com/integral-body-mind-market-practice/
Fitter Stoke, geändert vor 10 Jahren at 23.08.13 17:41
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RE: MCTPM ftw!
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RE: MCTPM ftw!
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RE: MCTPM ftw!
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RE: MCTPM ftw!
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"It doesn’t matter if you’re a saffron robed ascetic or a white shark on Wall Street."
Priceless.
Priceless.
Daniel M Ingram, geändert vor 10 Jahren at 25.08.13 05:53
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RE: MCTPM ftw!
Beiträge: 3271 Beitrittsdatum: 20.04.09 Neueste BeiträgeHermetically Sealed, geändert vor 10 Jahren at 25.08.13 21:42
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RE: MCTPM ftw!
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RE: MCTPM ftw!
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MDMA is very similar to 1-3 pure samatha jhanas. I haven't practiced these in a while (a few years or so), but I remember the jhanas being quite a bit stronger than a hit of molly (pure mdma) I took once as well as a hit of Ecstasy I took on a previous occasion. I was able to put the bliss off the scale with the jhanas, not as much bliss with the E or molly.
Hermetically Sealed, geändert vor 10 Jahren at 26.08.13 12:57
Created 10 Jahren ago at 25.08.13 23:17
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Beiträge: 113 Beitrittsdatum: 27.06.13 Neueste BeiträgeTom Tom:
MDMA is very similar to 1-3 pure samatha jhanas. I haven't practiced these in a while (a few years or so), but I remember the jhanas being quite a bit stronger than a hit of molly (pure mdma) I took once as well as a hit of Ecstasy I took on a previous occasion. I was able to put the bliss off the scale with the jhanas, not as much bliss with the E or molly.
agreed. MDMA at least to me feels more like the "afterglow" of jhanas or the afterglow of certain insight attainments.
I would feel comfortable giving someone a tab of MDMA and telling them "this is why you should take meditation seriously, because you'll be able to summon up this flavor of bliss and clarity". I don't think any other drug could be used to make such a claim. That said.. I haven't taken it in at least 10 years and probably won't ever take it again.
Bruno Loff, geändert vor 10 Jahren at 26.08.13 04:46
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Funnily enough, one of the reasons I still meditate is to try and bring to my daily life a dose of a specific perspective I've had on LSD, and still occasionally get when looking at nature. Although LSD did have unpredictable effects, and other perspectives which I am not so keen on, that specific way of seeing came up on every trip I took (which was five or six times).