Internal Battle - Discussion
Internal Battle
Internal Battle | Steven Star | 10/18/10 4:44 PM |
RE: Internal Battle | boeuf f | 10/18/10 5:10 PM |
RE: Internal Battle | Steven Star | 10/18/10 5:26 PM |
RE: Internal Battle | Bruno Loff | 10/19/10 5:03 AM |
Steven Star, modified 14 Years ago at 10/18/10 4:44 PM
Created 14 Years ago at 10/18/10 4:44 PM
Internal Battle
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I have been meditating for years now but only recently did I start turning it into a daily practice. For an hour a day at sun set, I sit. During my sittings I have been concentrating on my breath and my body, trying to relax both . While I’m doing this my mind races with reasons I should not be sitting. It is turning into an internal battle between my “daily self” and my “meditative self”. My mind run with excuse to avoid mediation, things I should do before I meditate, what if I’m disturbed during my mediation, I should check this, I should check that. My internal checklist starts to pile up and I fell that I’m torn between these two states of mind. Almost as if I have to put my check list in a cage and listen to it bark, scream and wine while I’m trying to meditate. I’m still at peace in my mind even though it is distracting. I was hoping that I could get some advice here to shut up this beast and tame it to behave. I’m running out of options. I have even tried to do everything before I meditate hoping that everything would be done prior. Setting an alarm to give myself a dictated time to meditate, and a dedicated time to do other things.
boeuf f, modified 14 Years ago at 10/18/10 5:10 PM
Created 14 Years ago at 10/18/10 5:10 PM
RE: Internal Battle
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Welcome!
Only you can set yourself on the cushion....
But it would be helpful if you specified what type of meditation you are doing. Saying that you "meditate" is a little like saying you like "sports"--there's a huge range of practices. It sounds like you're doing some sort of concentration practice.
When your mind is racing, there is likely an emotion powering that racing (anxiety/fear). Vipassana practice would have you attend to it and investigate its sensate qualities rather than trying to shut it off/out.
Are you familiar with vipassana? Have you read Daniel's book? You can buy it or it's available as a blog or pdf here http://www.interactivebuddha.com/
Regards,
Bruno
Only you can set yourself on the cushion....
But it would be helpful if you specified what type of meditation you are doing. Saying that you "meditate" is a little like saying you like "sports"--there's a huge range of practices. It sounds like you're doing some sort of concentration practice.
When your mind is racing, there is likely an emotion powering that racing (anxiety/fear). Vipassana practice would have you attend to it and investigate its sensate qualities rather than trying to shut it off/out.
Are you familiar with vipassana? Have you read Daniel's book? You can buy it or it's available as a blog or pdf here http://www.interactivebuddha.com/
Regards,
Bruno
Steven Star, modified 14 Years ago at 10/18/10 5:26 PM
Created 14 Years ago at 10/18/10 5:26 PM
RE: Internal Battle
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RE: Internal Battle
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Steven this happened to me, except I was utterly convinced that meditation was the way to go, and that was enough to overcome this kind of silly obsessive thinking before a meditation session.
One way I think of it is like this: the purpose of meditation is to remove some mechanisms of the mind; these mechanisms naturally have some defenses, which are in place in order to prevent their own demise; restlessness, anxiety, boredom, confusion, hesitation and doubt have all appeared to me at different times in my meditative career, wanting to pass off as an excuse not to meditate. Sometimes I bought into this kind of argumentation, but then later I would realize I had just fallen for the same trap I wanted to get rid of.
I guess my point is simply: that's normal, and if you want the enlightenment thing, you can't let that stop you.
What to do with it? You have actually come across a great object of investigation. Isn't it fascinating that your own mind rebels like a rabid dog when you decide to do something with it? How does that happen exactly? How does this crazy rebellion manifest itself, moment-by-moment? That's amazing stuff!
Do read Daniel's book, it's really great.
Bruno
One way I think of it is like this: the purpose of meditation is to remove some mechanisms of the mind; these mechanisms naturally have some defenses, which are in place in order to prevent their own demise; restlessness, anxiety, boredom, confusion, hesitation and doubt have all appeared to me at different times in my meditative career, wanting to pass off as an excuse not to meditate. Sometimes I bought into this kind of argumentation, but then later I would realize I had just fallen for the same trap I wanted to get rid of.
I guess my point is simply: that's normal, and if you want the enlightenment thing, you can't let that stop you.
What to do with it? You have actually come across a great object of investigation. Isn't it fascinating that your own mind rebels like a rabid dog when you decide to do something with it? How does that happen exactly? How does this crazy rebellion manifest itself, moment-by-moment? That's amazing stuff!
Do read Daniel's book, it's really great.
Bruno