Maslow's hierarchy of needs - Discussion
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs#Hierarchy]Maslow's hierarchy of needs seems to summarize a healthy normal life, from which Actualism differs in fundamental ways. Here is a diagram I made out of this:
The need to belong, the need to love, the need to feel respected are the "good feelings" that (after sufficient pure intent and understanding) are to be nipped in the bud to allow felicitous and innocuous feelings, that in turn allow one to live in a Virtual Freedom leading to an Actual Freedom.
The need to belong, the need to love, the need to feel respected are the "good feelings" that (after sufficient pure intent and understanding) are to be nipped in the bud to allow felicitous and innocuous feelings, that in turn allow one to live in a Virtual Freedom leading to an Actual Freedom.
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[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs#Hierarchy]Maslow's hierarchy of needs seems to summarize a healthy normal life, from which Actualism differs in fundamental ways. Here is a diagram I made out of this:
The need to belong, the need to love, the need to feel respected are the "good feelings" that (after sufficient pure intent and understanding) are to be nipped in the bud to allow felicitous and innocuous feelings, that in turn allow one to live in a Virtual Freedom leading to an Actual Freedom.
Hi-- this is an interesting comparison :-) I experience it a little differently, and I wonder what you think. I find that the social needs-- to belong and be respected-- are actually rooted in a deep sense of lack. "They" (other people) have something "I" need. "They" have love, acceptance and respect, and "I" need it from "them" because "I" (seem to) lack it. But "they" are me, too, of course; it's a dissociation/projection thing. The same "I" that needs acceptance needs rejection (projected/dissociated hostility/dislike) and so on.
Then go all the way down to the pre-personal needs of safety and physical needs. Here too the problem (the existential "problem", not the pragmatic problem) is the felt-sense of "lack". In actuality, breathing and living and being awake right here and now, I lack nothing. To take another breath is extra. To continue living is extra. So perhaps to perceive my current situation in terms of "lacking" safety, food etc is a fundamental missperception, or at least, it is to have blurred past appreciating the wonder and richness of being here now at all.
Appreciating the richness of Universe that it can arise as a living, reflective and wakeful human, seamlessly intimate with Universe, with genuine wonder at the magic of this, is perhaps in the region of felicity*? Then-- what does the rest of Maslow's hierarchy look like when the fundamental sense of "need" as "lack" or deficiency is seen as a misperception/ as unappreciative? What does human life look like when there is a basic appreciation for living and breathing here and now? Isn't everything else (the circumstances which perpetuate this living breathing condition, others to share experiences with, free time for making art and having adventures) a sheer bonus? What do you think?
* It seems to me (right now and so far) that as good/felicitous as appreciating the wonder and magic of this moment is, still, appreciation is ultimately redundant, as no matter how clear and pure and simple it becomes, it will always be more complex, impure and unclear than actuality.
The need to belong, the need to love, the need to feel respected are the "good feelings" that (after sufficient pure intent and understanding) are to be nipped in the bud to allow felicitous and innocuous feelings, that in turn allow one to live in a Virtual Freedom leading to an Actual Freedom.
Hi-- this is an interesting comparison :-) I experience it a little differently, and I wonder what you think. I find that the social needs-- to belong and be respected-- are actually rooted in a deep sense of lack. "They" (other people) have something "I" need. "They" have love, acceptance and respect, and "I" need it from "them" because "I" (seem to) lack it. But "they" are me, too, of course; it's a dissociation/projection thing. The same "I" that needs acceptance needs rejection (projected/dissociated hostility/dislike) and so on.
Then go all the way down to the pre-personal needs of safety and physical needs. Here too the problem (the existential "problem", not the pragmatic problem) is the felt-sense of "lack". In actuality, breathing and living and being awake right here and now, I lack nothing. To take another breath is extra. To continue living is extra. So perhaps to perceive my current situation in terms of "lacking" safety, food etc is a fundamental missperception, or at least, it is to have blurred past appreciating the wonder and richness of being here now at all.
Appreciating the richness of Universe that it can arise as a living, reflective and wakeful human, seamlessly intimate with Universe, with genuine wonder at the magic of this, is perhaps in the region of felicity*? Then-- what does the rest of Maslow's hierarchy look like when the fundamental sense of "need" as "lack" or deficiency is seen as a misperception/ as unappreciative? What does human life look like when there is a basic appreciation for living and breathing here and now? Isn't everything else (the circumstances which perpetuate this living breathing condition, others to share experiences with, free time for making art and having adventures) a sheer bonus? What do you think?
* It seems to me (right now and so far) that as good/felicitous as appreciating the wonder and magic of this moment is, still, appreciation is ultimately redundant, as no matter how clear and pure and simple it becomes, it will always be more complex, impure and unclear than actuality.
