I don't get the 3 Characteristics - Discussion
I like what HK said above.
I personally don't give a flying rats ars about pondering on 3C's while practicing.
My only objective is noting 1-10 sensation a second, and acceptance of it all.
Insight into all this stuff will come up on its own through uninterrupted observing of the stream of consciousness.
Pondering about 3C's is noted as "intention" "desire" "thinking" or "inability to see"
as that is what's happening right now.
It's always good to look at all this stuff in terms of Aboutism vs Actuality. Let's just say the Aboutism will not lead to awakening. It's ok for sharing, inspiring and pep talk but that's all it is.
Actuality is the meat and bones feeding the awakening.
My view of course and I might be wrong on all this.
I personally don't give a flying rats ars about pondering on 3C's while practicing.
My only objective is noting 1-10 sensation a second, and acceptance of it all.
Insight into all this stuff will come up on its own through uninterrupted observing of the stream of consciousness.
Pondering about 3C's is noted as "intention" "desire" "thinking" or "inability to see"
as that is what's happening right now. It's always good to look at all this stuff in terms of Aboutism vs Actuality. Let's just say the Aboutism will not lead to awakening. It's ok for sharing, inspiring and pep talk but that's all it is.
Actuality is the meat and bones feeding the awakening.
My view of course and I might be wrong on all this.
Great answers above. I would just add that you can also see the 3 C's at a grosser more conceptual level, if that helps.
Since "seeing" is not "thinking", it appears unlikely you can "see" the 3 C's at a grosser more conceptual level. Your post sounds like psychoanalysis or psychotherapy.
Then you can apply 3 C's analysis to the constituents of your mind
Interesting intellectual or indoctrination exercise but I doubt it works for enlightenment but might possibly send the mind into a type of short term annihilating supression .
I will be dissatisfied with it.
The characteristic of "dukkham" is unrelated to a personal mental reaction to an impermanent phenomena. The characteristic of "dukkham" is found within the impermanent phenomena. For example, a cloud or leaf is "dukkham" because there is no quality in that cloud or leaf than can bring lasting true happiness. The cloud & leaf itself is dukkham. This link might help:
https://www.dharmaoverground.org/discussion/-/message_boards/message/5857566
Yes. You should not be concerned with the 3 characteristics and just focus on developing a clear & calm mind (called concentration).
When the mind is clear & ready, it will naturally by itself see the 3 characteristics in various meditation objects, such as the breathing.
Vipassana is a fruit of practice rather than a practise in itself.
Its like growing a fruit tree. You do not grow the fruit directly. You grow the tree (by watering the tree roots, applying fertilizer to the soil, etc) and the fruit grows by itself.
As posted by Samvega:
When the mind is clear & ready, it will naturally by itself see the 3 characteristics in various meditation objects, such as the breathing.
Vipassana is a fruit of practice rather than a practise in itself.
Its like growing a fruit tree. You do not grow the fruit directly. You grow the tree (by watering the tree roots, applying fertilizer to the soil, etc) and the fruit grows by itself.
As posted by Samvega:
The 3Cs arent supposed to be a conceptual exercise. Just soak your awareness into the sensations. The mind will automatically understand the 3Cs without having to think about it.
