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5/25/20 8:39 PM
I swear I've seen other threads discussing this, but I haven't been able to find anything via the search. Feel free to just repost any threads that cover this.

When doing concentration or even noting it's not uncommon to feel a welling up of piti. I feel like I can "drop" into it and it causes a surge of pleasant sensations but it also causes pain in my brow-ridge, in my eyes, and little in the back of my head. 

Is this some sort of energy blockage, or is it just a clusy attempt at Jhana (or something else)?

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5/25/20 8:58 PM as a reply to Brandon Dayton.
Yeah in my experience it is blocked piti. Probably you are habitually contracting somewhere like the neck or face muscles which is causing the headache. In my experience it can also be caused by an excess of thinking or self-identification. Figuring out how to relax those contractions takes a while because you have been doing it for so long you are not aware of it. Becoming more aware of the lower body helps to drain some of the energy downwards. I have found Bhikkhu Buddhadasa's book Mindfulness of Breathing very helpful in elucidating the links between the breath, the body and the piti and how you get them working together. I am still actively working on it, so I'm probably biased, but you can check out more details on my log.

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5/25/20 10:08 PM as a reply to agnostic.
Cool. I'll check that out.

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5/25/20 11:30 PM as a reply to Brandon Dayton.
Remember, anapanasati sutta advises stuff like relaxing (tranquilizing the bodily formation) on the inbreath and outbreath. In my experience if you stay on that track of letting go of body tension, it's possible to relax to an extent I did not think possible (not just mentally at ease, but actual muscles extremely slack). This seems like a very good thing.

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5/26/20 12:30 AM as a reply to Brandon Dayton.
Brandon Dayton:
I swear I've seen other threads discussing this, but I haven't been able to find anything via the search. Feel free to just repost any threads that cover this.

When doing concentration or even noting it's not uncommon to feel a welling up of piti. I feel like I can "drop" into it and it causes a surge of pleasant sensations but it also causes pain in my brow-ridge, in my eyes, and little in the back of my head. 

Is this some sort of energy blockage, or is it just a clusy attempt at Jhana (or something else)?


FWIW, I had something like this and was worried about it - also as a 'block' for piti etc so asked a friend with 30 years vipassana experience and he said not to worry about it - just enjoy this time we have to practice and the massive opportunity we have, to just enjoy.

I thought this was interesting since he heard my question but didn't bother with giving it concern emoticon And yeah, I just stopped dwelling on it. My perspective: its good to notice but there's lots of other things that arise emoticon Before I asked me friend I thought maybe this was like the 'final boss' and if my body glowed with piti I would finally be a stream-winner! lol : )

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5/26/20 7:54 AM as a reply to Brandon Dayton.
Actually I realized this morning that the piti might be a red herring, it's most likely a stress headache and the painful piti is just a coincident factor related to the stress baseline. I would focus on what Brian said about basic physical relaxation.