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Lucid dreaming and vipassana
Lucid dreaming and vipassana | Emil Jensen | 2/10/22 9:46 AM |
RE: Lucid dreaming and vipassana | Hector L | 2/26/22 5:42 PM |
Emil Jensen, modified 2 Years ago at 2/10/22 9:46 AM
Created 2 Years ago at 2/10/22 9:46 AM
Lucid dreaming and vipassana
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Hi DhO(rks) ^_^
I have been wondering this for years..
When I started meditating around the end of 2015 the first six months for me were full of new dream and paralysis induced phenomena. I dreamt a lot (*remembered it), and a few times, hyper lucidly.
I've heard that many more start being more lucid in their dreams as practice progresses. Recently I even read in a book (with a dream guy that was on Guru Viking podcast, forgot his name now..) that meditation masters always dream lucidly.
However, my lucidity vanished after those initial 6 months and even regular dream recall which I did use to have some of, completely vanished until recently when I started practices of recall.
Do you have some inputs to the possible connection and perhaps the lack thereof?
Myself, I tend to think that of course, as mindfulness increases, so does dream recall and perhaps also lucid dreaming skills. It's just been so very inconsistent with my own experience: Obviously I have noticed a tremendous gain in lucidity in terms of being aware of both body and mind when awake, but then again, all dream recall completely vanished for years. Whaaaat...
I guess maybe I'm tempted to think that one can practice being aware of the body/mind in different ways, and that this is what makes the difference.
For instance, the 'exercises' I do now which seem to enhance recall and even some lucidity (almost with immediate results), was remembering my thoughts during day time. Just a few times in a day I try to recall my thoughts from some time earlier. That seems to train a muscle I didn't know had gotten so damn sloppy - at first it was hard, but then it was kinda pleasant, kinda like mildly exercising a weak muscle and the body just going 'ahhhh'.
My most dream-less time of my life was when I had started high doses of Goenka type vipassana practice. This was certainly a time when I would neglect my thoughts, in favor of sensing the body!
Is there a logic that makes sense here. What are your thoughts?
/Emil
I have been wondering this for years..
When I started meditating around the end of 2015 the first six months for me were full of new dream and paralysis induced phenomena. I dreamt a lot (*remembered it), and a few times, hyper lucidly.
I've heard that many more start being more lucid in their dreams as practice progresses. Recently I even read in a book (with a dream guy that was on Guru Viking podcast, forgot his name now..) that meditation masters always dream lucidly.
However, my lucidity vanished after those initial 6 months and even regular dream recall which I did use to have some of, completely vanished until recently when I started practices of recall.
Do you have some inputs to the possible connection and perhaps the lack thereof?
Myself, I tend to think that of course, as mindfulness increases, so does dream recall and perhaps also lucid dreaming skills. It's just been so very inconsistent with my own experience: Obviously I have noticed a tremendous gain in lucidity in terms of being aware of both body and mind when awake, but then again, all dream recall completely vanished for years. Whaaaat...
I guess maybe I'm tempted to think that one can practice being aware of the body/mind in different ways, and that this is what makes the difference.
For instance, the 'exercises' I do now which seem to enhance recall and even some lucidity (almost with immediate results), was remembering my thoughts during day time. Just a few times in a day I try to recall my thoughts from some time earlier. That seems to train a muscle I didn't know had gotten so damn sloppy - at first it was hard, but then it was kinda pleasant, kinda like mildly exercising a weak muscle and the body just going 'ahhhh'.
My most dream-less time of my life was when I had started high doses of Goenka type vipassana practice. This was certainly a time when I would neglect my thoughts, in favor of sensing the body!
Is there a logic that makes sense here. What are your thoughts?
/Emil
Hector L, modified 2 Years ago at 2/26/22 5:42 PM
Created 2 Years ago at 2/26/22 5:42 PM
RE: Lucid dreaming and vipassana
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I became more chill about getting to be lucid in dreams, I just remember what happens the last 2-3 dreams back per day and then write them down for analysis Jungian style. For me I find more value in letting them be without interference so I can look at the stories for information about my unconscious rather than intervening while in the dream. I follow a version of this https://yoursleepinggenius.com/programs/how-to-conduct-a-dream-interview