“Seeing Vibrations” - what that means - Discussion
“Seeing Vibrations” - what that means
Sax Ma'am, modified 8 Months ago at 6/29/24 2:15 PM
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“Seeing Vibrations” - what that means
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"Seeing Vibrations". I've read this phrase in MCTB2, and I wonder if I've experienced this.
Trying to build a concentration practice, I've had the most success focusing on the center of my closed-eyes visual field and simultaneously using the inflection points of my breathing to remind me to maintain or resume my focus.
Sometimes the whole visual field will start to oscillate at about 0.5 Hz along some axis (say from 5 o'clock to 11 o'clock). Or it will seem to get closer to me and then farther at that same low frequency. Is that what people mean when they talk about "seeing vibrations"?
If not, and you've seen vibrations, what does that look like to you?
Edit: I forgot to mention that sometimes I see the visual field, or the center of it flashing at something like 5.0 Hz. Maybe that's "seeing vibrations"?
Thanks!
Trying to build a concentration practice, I've had the most success focusing on the center of my closed-eyes visual field and simultaneously using the inflection points of my breathing to remind me to maintain or resume my focus.
Sometimes the whole visual field will start to oscillate at about 0.5 Hz along some axis (say from 5 o'clock to 11 o'clock). Or it will seem to get closer to me and then farther at that same low frequency. Is that what people mean when they talk about "seeing vibrations"?
If not, and you've seen vibrations, what does that look like to you?
Edit: I forgot to mention that sometimes I see the visual field, or the center of it flashing at something like 5.0 Hz. Maybe that's "seeing vibrations"?
Thanks!
Bahiya Baby, modified 8 Months ago at 6/29/24 6:14 PM
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RE: “Seeing Vibrations” - what that means
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It has more to do with Sensing the particulate nature of sense experience. Being aware of your sensations such that you can see how sensations arise and pass, the shape and patterning of this arising and passing, so on.
Papa Che Dusko, modified 8 Months ago at 6/29/24 6:24 PM
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RE: “Seeing Vibrations” - what that means
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There can be oscillations, dynamic pixelations, pins and needles and waves or fumes in the visual or tactile field. There can be all sorts of different experiences, strange and less so. Stuff can get smaller or bigger than usual. Vibrations, oscillations, and waves/fumes can come in or out from different directions, above or below or from left or right inwardly or outwardly or from any direction.
All these can have a feeling tone! NOTE IT! All these can have some sort of a body sensation or an in-ear sound attached to it, a mind image maybe? ... Observe, keep noting what you are observing! Don't miss a thing!
Its ALL part of the puzzle!
All these can have a feeling tone! NOTE IT! All these can have some sort of a body sensation or an in-ear sound attached to it, a mind image maybe? ... Observe, keep noting what you are observing! Don't miss a thing!

Dream Walker, modified 8 Months ago at 6/30/24 11:55 AM
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RE: “Seeing Vibrations” - what that means
Posts: 1770 Join Date: 1/18/12 Recent PostsSax Ma'am
"Seeing Vibrations". I've read this phrase in MCTB2, and I wonder if I've experienced this.
Trying to build a concentration practice, I've had the most success focusing on the center of my closed-eyes visual field and simultaneously using the inflection points of my breathing to remind me to maintain or resume my focus.
Sometimes the whole visual field will start to oscillate at about 0.5 Hz along some axis (say from 5 o'clock to 11 o'clock). Or it will seem to get closer to me and then farther at that same low frequency. Is that what people mean when they talk about "seeing vibrations"?
What do you think? Repeat it over and over then make your own judgement, you're the only one with all the info and details.
If not, and you've seen vibrations, what does that look like to you?
Edit: I forgot to mention that sometimes I see the visual field, or the center of it flashing at something like 5.0 Hz. Maybe that's "seeing vibrations"?
Thanks!
progress-of-insight 4-the-arising-and-passing-away
My best guess is that you are getting to 2nd jhana/4th Nana-A&P
Standard results -
SEE - Visual snow
HEAR - Nada sound, Meditative tinnitus. Listen closly and it gets all sorts of fun/weird
FEEL - Vibrations on the body. Somatic
Sometimes these sensations conflate/mix but usually only one sense door is selected at a time when you have the detail level high.
Good luck,
~D
Sax Ma'am, modified 8 Months ago at 6/30/24 12:59 PM
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RE: “Seeing Vibrations” - what that means
Posts: 35 Join Date: 11/26/13 Recent PostsSax Ma'am, modified 8 Months ago at 6/30/24 1:09 PM
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RE: “Seeing Vibrations” - what that means
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Hey DreamWalker,
This is my second attempt to reply. First attempt disappeared.
Thanks for the encouragement. I wasn't sure if I even have managed access concentration. I can't seem to stay with the meditation object for long. Rereading the first part of MCBT2 and becoming more experimental with my attempts landed me on the visual field as object, and that seemed to help me get moving.
Today I'm feeling like everything coming up in my visual field is going to be boring. I'm just resolving to really stay with it to the best of my ability.
SM
Anyway, I can't find the phrase "seeing vibrations" in my mctb2 pdf, though I would swear i heard it while listening to the soundcloud audio version. I'll have to come back to this. There's 57 hits on just vibrations.
This is my second attempt to reply. First attempt disappeared.
Thanks for the encouragement. I wasn't sure if I even have managed access concentration. I can't seem to stay with the meditation object for long. Rereading the first part of MCBT2 and becoming more experimental with my attempts landed me on the visual field as object, and that seemed to help me get moving.
Today I'm feeling like everything coming up in my visual field is going to be boring. I'm just resolving to really stay with it to the best of my ability.
SM
Anyway, I can't find the phrase "seeing vibrations" in my mctb2 pdf, though I would swear i heard it while listening to the soundcloud audio version. I'll have to come back to this. There's 57 hits on just vibrations.