followed breath sensation down a hole... how do I do it again?

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Karl Jock Linder, modified 1 Month ago at 3/8/25 4:52 PM
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followed breath sensation down a hole... how do I do it again?

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Thanks for checking this out!

("K" is me)

K senses that he would not be as fearful of life if he did this thing more often.

The following has happened once on Goenka retreats and a couple-two-three times on mushroom-enhanced meditations:
           K is attending the gentlest of the sensations of the breath on the smallest area of the philtrum that he can manage, and then something like this happens although he is unsure of the exact sequence. He finds himself aware of his physical enviroment but that awareness is faint, and what is very strongly superimposed on that awareness in hyper-realness is synisthasia-like vision of the sensation of breath like a candy-coated multicolored vortex that twirls with his breath, seeming to draw him towards a disapearing point. He keeps gently following these events and everything seems to flash on and off and then he blacks-out and when he comes back he feels clear and energized.
Please give your thoughts and questions.

Best Wishes

K
Robert L, modified 1 Month ago at 3/8/25 7:37 PM
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RE: followed breath sensation down a hole... how do I do it again?

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Just practice. Don't try to reproduce. 
Robert L, modified 1 Month ago at 3/8/25 7:46 PM
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RE: followed breath sensation down a hole... how do I do it again?

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Gently follow these events. And follow and follow. I love your description.
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Karl Jock Linder, modified 1 Month ago at 3/9/25 3:22 PM
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RE: followed breath sensation down a hole... how do I do it again?

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Thanks for the feedback and the encouragement, Robert!  This poster commits to not grasping, and to gently following. That seems like a good, and needed suggestion which this poster will probably need to hear again at some point or points.

 If you had to guess where an event like that might be on one of the maps of insight, where would you say?
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Papa Che Dusko, modified 1 Month ago at 3/9/25 5:20 PM
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RE: followed breath sensation down a hole... how do I do it again?

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Hi K this is PCD and sometimes CGB, depending on god knows what emoticon 

" If you had to guess where an event like that might be on one of the maps of insight, where would you say?"

It would be far easier to map you if you are to investigate something like an ... itch on the skin for example. Mind images are very tricky I find. Far safer to stay closer to the body sensations and investigate how they behave. 
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Karl Jock Linder, modified 1 Month ago at 3/9/25 6:18 PM
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RE: followed breath sensation down a hole... how do I do it again?

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Thanks PCD, K is fixin' to sit down for an hour right now and will give it a shot.

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