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Guruviking Ep290: Answering Critics & Kriya Yoga - Delson Armstrong
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Guruviking Ep290: Answering Critics & Kriya Yoga - Delson Armstrong
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This is a good description of Delson's new approach to teaching, where he combines kriya yoga and TWIM:
https://www.guruviking.com/podcast/ep290-answering-critics-kriya-yoga-delson-armstrong
Here's the blurb:
In this interview, Delson responds to criticism and answers questions about his recent renunciation of attainments and revision of the Buddhist 4 path enlightenment model. Delson reflects on the pros and cons of questioning established religious doctrines and on the role of direct experience in challenging fixed views. Delson comments on a recently leaked interview, shares his current position on Bhante Vimalaramsi and his TWIM meditation method, and compares Buddhism to traditional yoga. Delson also recalls his own training in Kriya yoga, details the features of the particular lineage which he has begun to teach, and reveals methods of working with karma, chakras, and forgiveness. 00:00 - Intro01:00 - Responses to Delson renouncing his spiritual attainments02:56 - Criticism of Delson 04:08 - Has Delson abandoned the 10 fetter model and the 4 attainments?05:18 - Delson’s leaked interview07:58 - Breach of trust and betrayal of friendship09:32 - Why redefine the Buddhist doctrines rather than reassess oneself?12:46 - Delson’s experience vs cultural consensus13:50 - Is Buddhist doctrine beyond cultural?16:25 - Going beyond maps and Integral Theory 17:35 - Challenging fundamentalism and fixed views18:43 - The jīvanmukta and other mystical traditions20:22 - Transcending doctrinal chains of imprisonment21:37 - Daniel Ingram’s revisions 23:07 - Delsonism vs Buddhism24:44 - Should Delson leave the traditions alone?26:09 - The role of tradition and Delson’s contribution 27:31 - Comments on TWIM 28:32 - Drawing on different traditions30:03 - Current view32:05 - Delson’s current opinion on TWIM and Bhante Vimalaramsi 36:26 - Delson’s training in Kriya yoga40:16 - Which Kriya yoga lineage does Delson teach?42:17 - Anyone can do Kriya yoga44:09 - Short learning curve to samadhi45:03 - Relaxing into awakening46:39 - What is the point of the jhanas?48:13 - Chakras and siddhi powers51:37 - Deities and chakras 53:26 - The Yoga Sutras on siddhi power55:07 - Karmic acceleration and misconceptions about chakra work58:00 - How to release karma01:00:03 - Kriya yoga approach to work with chakras01:00:34 - The power of forgiveness01:01:51 - TWIM vs Kriya, Yoga vs Buddhism01:07:37 - Delson’s recent experience teaching Kriya yoga01:11:35 - Initiation in Kriya yoga and tantra01:15:51 - Secrecy as a marketing tool01:17:17 - Delson reflects on his teaching career01:19:23 - Scientific tests on Delson, can he still meditate?
https://www.guruviking.com/podcast/ep290-answering-critics-kriya-yoga-delson-armstrong
Here's the blurb:
In this interview, Delson responds to criticism and answers questions about his recent renunciation of attainments and revision of the Buddhist 4 path enlightenment model. Delson reflects on the pros and cons of questioning established religious doctrines and on the role of direct experience in challenging fixed views. Delson comments on a recently leaked interview, shares his current position on Bhante Vimalaramsi and his TWIM meditation method, and compares Buddhism to traditional yoga. Delson also recalls his own training in Kriya yoga, details the features of the particular lineage which he has begun to teach, and reveals methods of working with karma, chakras, and forgiveness. 00:00 - Intro01:00 - Responses to Delson renouncing his spiritual attainments02:56 - Criticism of Delson 04:08 - Has Delson abandoned the 10 fetter model and the 4 attainments?05:18 - Delson’s leaked interview07:58 - Breach of trust and betrayal of friendship09:32 - Why redefine the Buddhist doctrines rather than reassess oneself?12:46 - Delson’s experience vs cultural consensus13:50 - Is Buddhist doctrine beyond cultural?16:25 - Going beyond maps and Integral Theory 17:35 - Challenging fundamentalism and fixed views18:43 - The jīvanmukta and other mystical traditions20:22 - Transcending doctrinal chains of imprisonment21:37 - Daniel Ingram’s revisions 23:07 - Delsonism vs Buddhism24:44 - Should Delson leave the traditions alone?26:09 - The role of tradition and Delson’s contribution 27:31 - Comments on TWIM 28:32 - Drawing on different traditions30:03 - Current view32:05 - Delson’s current opinion on TWIM and Bhante Vimalaramsi 36:26 - Delson’s training in Kriya yoga40:16 - Which Kriya yoga lineage does Delson teach?42:17 - Anyone can do Kriya yoga44:09 - Short learning curve to samadhi45:03 - Relaxing into awakening46:39 - What is the point of the jhanas?48:13 - Chakras and siddhi powers51:37 - Deities and chakras 53:26 - The Yoga Sutras on siddhi power55:07 - Karmic acceleration and misconceptions about chakra work58:00 - How to release karma01:00:03 - Kriya yoga approach to work with chakras01:00:34 - The power of forgiveness01:01:51 - TWIM vs Kriya, Yoga vs Buddhism01:07:37 - Delson’s recent experience teaching Kriya yoga01:11:35 - Initiation in Kriya yoga and tantra01:15:51 - Secrecy as a marketing tool01:17:17 - Delson reflects on his teaching career01:19:23 - Scientific tests on Delson, can he still meditate?
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RE: Guruviking Ep290: Answering Critics & Kriya Yoga - Delson Armstrong
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I have enjoyed watching Delson's development as a teacher and person.
Nobody is perfect, but I appreciate that people who end up in similar situations often don't reflect on it publicly, don't take any ownership, or don't take steps to be seen as a fellow seeker instead of the guru. Even before the drama, I enjoyed his presentation/instructions of Brahma Vihara meditation; particularly as he deviated further and further from what I call orthodox TWIM (i.e. following "The Path To Nibbana" and the late Bhante Vimalaramsi's teachings literally like gospel).
Nobody is perfect, but I appreciate that people who end up in similar situations often don't reflect on it publicly, don't take any ownership, or don't take steps to be seen as a fellow seeker instead of the guru. Even before the drama, I enjoyed his presentation/instructions of Brahma Vihara meditation; particularly as he deviated further and further from what I call orthodox TWIM (i.e. following "The Path To Nibbana" and the late Bhante Vimalaramsi's teachings literally like gospel).