Thank you very much. I tried meditating in the half lotus position and the body did not start doing exercises as expected because it was not posible in that position but had muscle contractions and changes in breathing patern like before. I was taking big in-breaths.

I payed more attention and do not think it was jhana anymore. The pleasant sensation was big but not jhana and it started very fast and maintained itself the same even though I was not concentrating that good on the pleasant sensation because of the things the body was doing that distracted me. Thing is I think I was like "stuck in the presant moment". Withaught effort or even wanting I was paying attention to things in the presant moment and if I tried to think of something after I stopped meditating the thaught would apear and dissapear very fast and was imposible to think of anything. I also felt a little strange even when not meditating, a king of buzz in my head, was like feeling "something".


About me I was only able to enter the first jhana once 1 month ago and since then was close but not managed to because now that I saw how pleasant it is in the back of my mind I want to get there and am not able to be free from that desire as I should. About the time this happened I meditated again while using that drug I wrote about in a different post (dxm) and meditated for 4 hours withaught a break (witch is enormeous for a begginer even on this drug) and after that I meditated for another hours and the thing I described happened in that hour and after. The drug is one of the 3 dissociatives but things like this never happened to me before and I have no reason to belive the drug had somethign to do with it because it has no "normal drug effects" when you meditate on it, it just makes you not feel the body so makes you able to meditate more.


I got very scared that it might be that kundalini thing but it did not have the other simptoms and things like that should not happen to beginners who practice normal meditation not energy practices. I have to mention that did not bother me at all and was very funny to watch how many different exercises my body is able to do while lying down lol It was like an entire fitness program

Thank you everybody for the links. Although it was not something bad and was quite pleasant I really freaked out but now that I meditated sober and nothing out of the ordinary happened am a little more relaxed.


I do not know too much about spirits, I am sure they exist in this world too but I do not belive another spirit can take even the slightest control of another sentient been without his permission. I thought about what happened and I remembered the times I used to drive on dxm and it always fascinated me how the body and the mind drove the car by itself without "me" doing anything about it and drove a lot better than sober. Your body and mind can function with "you" been over there, like when you think of something and also drive or walk on the street. You are not paying attention to where you put every step. Probably been on one of the 3 dissociative drugs that exist (dxm, ketamine and pcp) made that posible to another level. I notice that every exercise the body did was was a very natural response to the need of my body. It was like a very good fitness teacher gave the perfect exercise for every little pain that you could feel and also did them perfectly, a way that is imposible for me sober like with some muscles relaxed, tensed etc.

Perhaps that's what the body starts doing if you let him alone by cutting the mind from the body using dissociatives + meditation lol

HEEEEEEEEELP !!! I am not able to meditate properly anymore, this is what happens.


After that night with the body doing exercises by itself I am not able to meditate properly anymore. First of all, the pleasant sensation at the smile is not like before, it is a lot less "solid" if you understand what I mean. I do not know how to say the pleasantness is "softer" or something like that so it is even harder to concentrate on it. I also hear a little sound all the time in the background and the blackness/redness/yelowness of the closed eyes is pulsating all the time, slow or fast. I even had strong nimita and this did not happen to me before, at least not like this. The way my concentration on the pleasant sensation increased before is not happening now. I do not know how to describe but the little "stages" of increasing concentration when observing the pleasant sensation are not like before. There is a soft pleasant sensation in the body all the time now but it does not vary or change acording to the more or less concentrated I am on the pleasant sensation. The worst part is that when I do get really concentrated and get closer to jhana the body starts taking huge in-breaths, muscles contract, different moves happen, am like a girl having a huge orgasm overall, but the soft pleasure in the body that was there all before is not increasing and geting closer to what first jhana should be, it stays soft like all the way from the begining. It is very hard to concentrate with the body doing all this stuff and the colour of the closed eyelids pulsating and the sound and etc.

I am very afraid of shizofrenia, kundalini etc. but there are no other simptoms to sugest that. Please help I do not know what to do I am not able to meditate properly anymore. It all started with that huge 4 hours meditation session on dxm

In the last couple of hours I did exercises non stop. I just stay up on my feet and move my arms a little and then I start doing a ton of super strange exercises with huge vigour. It is like somebody is doing them for me, they come naturally and are always different. I just let my body do whathever it want;s to do. I belive it is something similat to thai chi or some sort of phisical practice. What in the world is this ? How should i manage it ? I do not have teachers for these sort of stuff or for meditation in my country so please help