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impure vs pure thogal visions

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impure vs pure thogal visions
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12/4/14 2:02 PM
i know that impure visions arise due to ignorance and not staying in a calm natural space but can one still achieve enlightenment with impure thogal visions or are all thye enlightened masters getting pure visions and then enlightenment?

RE: impure vs pure thogal visions
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3/31/15 10:39 AM as a reply to grant.
One completely abandons impure karmic visions, then practicing with pure visions eventually leads to Enlightenment. With pure visions there are still periods of tension/not staying calm prior to Enlightenment, but these are still completely distinct from impure karmic visions. Impure karmic visions are in indication that one still has a very long way to go, as that is still the beginning of the thogal path.