It's ok to claim Stream Entry ;) - Discussion
It's ok to claim Stream Entry ;)
Mettafore, geändert vor 6 Jahren at 06.12.17 02:04
Created 6 Jahren ago at 06.12.17 02:04
It's ok to claim Stream Entry ;)
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I found a super interesting video of U Nu, the first PM of Burma in which he clearly implies that he is a stream enterer. Very interesting video from a historical and cultural point of view.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGKdUJoah6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGKdUJoah6Y
neko, geändert vor 6 Jahren at 06.12.17 04:35
Created 6 Jahren ago at 06.12.17 04:35
RE: It's ok to claim Stream Entry ;)
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Created 6 Jahren ago at 08.12.17 06:00
RE: It's ok to claim Stream Entry ;)
Beiträge: 232 Beitrittsdatum: 25.01.17 Neueste BeiträgeMettafore:
I found a super interesting video of U Nu, the first PM of Burma in which he clearly implies that he is a stream enterer. Very interesting video from a historical and cultural point of view.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGKdUJoah6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGKdUJoah6Y
I also enjoyed this dialogue between U Nu and Ben Gurion that I found linked on the same page, which is also interesting for similar reasons, as well as comparative religion – or comparative-prime-ministerism – and seeing old-skool TV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf-VvnvDEQE
I Dream of Jnani, geändert vor 5 Jahren at 15.07.18 12:11
Created 5 Jahren ago at 15.07.18 12:11
RE: It's ok to claim Stream Entry ;)
Beiträge: 39 Beitrittsdatum: 13.07.18 Neueste BeiträgeMettafore:
I found a super interesting video of U Nu, the first PM of Burma in which he clearly implies that he is a stream enterer. Very interesting video from a historical and cultural point of view.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGKdUJoah6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGKdUJoah6Y
@Mettafore:
It's great to hear that others are getting great results with Honesty in the Dhamma. Some results vary. I guess there is an obvious go to gere:
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What use are claims of Attainment high -- "For Giving Up." ....highly paraphrased from the Vimuttimagga.
All 4 Brahmaviharas to you!
Cheers.
Pyro Arkar, geändert vor 5 Jahren at 15.07.18 23:47
Created 5 Jahren ago at 15.07.18 23:47
RE: It's ok to claim Stream Entry ;)
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It is ok to claim stream entry if
- If you see the oppurtunity that person will follow the path.
- If you are going to teach meditation to followers
- In the community like those who are already following the path
Outside of this , there are many with Anger , Jealousy , Hate , Pride , for those people , we will give them bad karma if they insult stream enterers so best to keep low profile. Insulting S.E , will cause them problem during Path .
- If you see the oppurtunity that person will follow the path.
- If you are going to teach meditation to followers
- In the community like those who are already following the path
Outside of this , there are many with Anger , Jealousy , Hate , Pride , for those people , we will give them bad karma if they insult stream enterers so best to keep low profile. Insulting S.E , will cause them problem during Path .
I Dream of Jnani, geändert vor 5 Jahren at 16.07.18 13:36
Created 5 Jahren ago at 16.07.18 13:36
RE: It's ok to claim Stream Entry ;)
Beiträge: 39 Beitrittsdatum: 13.07.18 Neueste BeiträgePhyo Arkar:
It is ok to claim stream entry if
- If you see the oppurtunity that person will follow the path.
- If you are going to teach meditation to followers
- In the community like those who are already following the path
Outside of this , there are many with Anger , Jealousy , Hate , Pride , for those people , we will give them bad karma if they insult stream enterers so best to keep low profile. Insulting S.E , will cause them problem during Path .
- If you see the oppurtunity that person will follow the path.
- If you are going to teach meditation to followers
- In the community like those who are already following the path
Outside of this , there are many with Anger , Jealousy , Hate , Pride , for those people , we will give them bad karma if they insult stream enterers so best to keep low profile. Insulting S.E , will cause them problem during Path .
Phyo,
Thank you for the reminder, and that's beautiful.
Having been trying to meditate and practice since I was 11 (1985), but not having a lot of Insight until finding the True Dhamma via several *very* generous sources at once within the last decade, I still feel quite *new* to "Ardent practice under the supervision of a lineaged teacher".
However, like many of the "pragmatists" on the DhO, I use my own practice and the Insights gained therein and agreed to via my Teacher's assesment as final authority (if any...and lets be Honest here about 'authority' - heh), even above what is claimed in the scriptures.
Furthermore, both teacher and student can be fooled by the limitless potential of delusion in the "human consciousness"/being. So yet another one of the hazards of claim. Bad kamma for the claimaint and those who might falsely evaluate as well -- yes indeed, agree.
The question arises -- within such "Right Uncertainty", can there be any concept of "peer review" or is that just a figment of Western Atheistic Materialism/Natural Philosophy which our/my upbringing encourages. Many Empty sensations to investigate here, from my POV.
All my Goodwill.