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LED/ Fire kasina progression with eyes open

<p>Hello,</p>

<p>Quick progress question for advanced meditators here.</p>

<p>Let&#39;s say an advanced practitioner with access to fourth shamata pleasure jhana and or fourth LED/Fire kasina jhana, stares at a phone LED light in a dark room for up to a minute, then turn off the light, and keeps concentrating at the after image with eyes open, what is expected to happen?</p>

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<p>Personally when I do the procedure above, I get a neon dark green/cayenne after image with an incomplete red ring sounding the circle. The after image fades away after a few minutes.</p>

<p>What can be expected for progession?</p>

<p>Will there be complete pacification(i.e visual sense become inactive) of the visual field in fourth jhana even with eyes open?</p>

<p>Will the green circle turn red eventually? Is the progression the same with eyes open as it is with eyes closed? Is there a difference?</p>

<p>This question is related to a previous post I created : https://www.dharmaoverground.org/discussion?p_p_id=19&amp;p_p_lifecycle=0&amp;p_p_state=normal&amp;p_p_mode=view&amp;p_p_col_id=column-1&amp;p_p_col_count=2&amp;_19_redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dharmaoverground.org%2Fdiscussion%2F-%2Fmessage_boards%2Fmessage%2F7813354&amp;_19_threadId=7813045&amp;_19_mbCategoryId=6004875&amp;_19_parentMessageId=7813907&amp;_19_struts_action=%2Fmessage_boards%2Fedit_message</p>

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<p>Thanks for answering.&nbsp;</p>