difficulty observing train of thought

Patrick Joyce, modified 4 Years ago at 9/28/19 11:22 PM
Created 4 Years ago at 9/28/19 11:22 PM

difficulty observing train of thought

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In Daniel's interview with Robert Wright, Robert says when he starts to observe a train of thought, it ends. 

https://youtu.be/V0cXqFYlm2I?t=1499 

Daniel kind of shrugs it off. I have the same issue, if I notice I'm thinking, the thought abruptly ends and I am back to the breath. If i want to observe/investigate the thought, I have to return to it, kind of remembering it. Is this just a rookie situation? Can I expect this to change as I deepen my practice? I'm doing the IMS/Mahasi style of meditation.
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Siavash ', modified 4 Years ago at 9/29/19 2:31 PM
Created 4 Years ago at 9/29/19 7:09 AM

RE: difficulty observing train of thought

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What I have observed in my own experience, is that, each of thoughts, mental images or mental talks, comes to awareness with an intention, meaning each image or burst of mental talk has its own intention and appears in awareness with that intention, and when I turn attention towards observing thoughts, often this intention of observing thoughts is stronger than the intention of the thoughts, so thoughts stop from arising, because their intention doesn't arise in favor of this stronger intention for observing them, and it feels like if I have to have those thoughts and at the same time observe them, I should inject some intention their, in other words, I should initiate the thoughts again with an intention to see those mental images or hear those mental talks, and maintain a balance in the strenght of intentions, to keep an intention to observe, and at the same time, let the intention of those thoughts to arise.

Also, I think there is nothing wrong with thoughts stopping when you observe them. You can enjoy that! I can assure you that there will be times, that no matter how hard you try, you won't be able to stop them. Working with a quieter mind can help to have some tools in those times.

Shinzen's Auto Think technique is a very good one to work with thoughts. and Also his See In and Hear In, but both of those could be practiced with Auto Think.
Patrick Joyce, modified 4 Years ago at 9/29/19 7:34 AM
Created 4 Years ago at 9/29/19 7:34 AM

RE: difficulty observing train of thought

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Thanks, I will check out Auto Think.

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