What happens if an arahant takes drugs?

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Voku Hila, modified 11 Years ago at 12/11/12 5:27 PM
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What happens if an arahant takes drugs?

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What happens if an arahant takes drugs? (Smoking weed, LSD, Alcohol,...)

Is there a difference?
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Fitter Stoke, modified 11 Years ago at 12/11/12 6:04 PM
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They get high.
Change A, modified 11 Years ago at 12/11/12 10:14 PM
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They will become high but can switch back to being almost normal in an instant as if a switch has been turned on/off.
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(D Z) Dhru Val, modified 11 Years ago at 12/12/12 12:14 AM
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Voku Hila:
What happens if an arahant takes drugs? (Smoking weed, LSD, Alcohol,...)

Is there a difference?


No claims to Arahant-ship, but yes there is almost certainly a difference.

The only drug that I have significant experience with is alcohol.

Here is an old entry from a journal I used to keep on this forum, soon after that baseline shift...

[quote= DZ's Journal]- Went to a party, had a couple of drinks (there was a phase following stream entry where alcohol resulted in incredible disorientation and headaches, not just the regular inebriation / hangovers). There is no feeling of getting drunk whatsoever. Although I think I might have been getting drunk and didn't notice it, in the sense that my actions were that of a drunk person, but my awareness remained unaffected. But not sure this might also have just been the lack of anxiety in action.


I think at the time I wrote that post, there was a still some threshold after which the alcohol would hit me. But after some more recent progressions I basically never feel buzzed or drunk, but I still get drunk physiologically. Alcohol still has some pleasantness, and loosening up actions is sometimes good in certain social situations..

It took some getting used to, because I was subconsciously using feeling buzzed as a signal to stop drinking. There were one instance where I didn't feel drunk at all, till I started throwing up. Then I had a multiday hangover.

After that I started being much more careful about it, and drastically cut down on the drinking.

These days I have far less motivation to drink and party compared to before. And when I drink it is only, in measured amounts. I am sure this has played a some role, but there are probably a number of factors..
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Fitter Stoke, modified 11 Years ago at 12/12/12 6:24 AM
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Actually, they are drugs. People are still scraping off pieces of Mahasi and smoking him. Trufax.
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Jane Laurel Carrington, modified 11 Years ago at 12/12/12 10:20 AM
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I hate to say this, but I got drunk on two glasses of wine about 4 months post SE. Of course my tolerance has always been low, and I have had very little alcohol for years, plus the occasion was late afternoon, on a near-empty stomach. But the experience was one of mental fog, altered vision, and unpleasant pressure in the ears. Not something I have any desire to repeat.
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Voku Hila:
What happens if an arahant takes drugs?


It isn't pretty.
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Fitter Stoke, modified 11 Years ago at 12/12/12 10:55 AM
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I hit the A&P right before drinking with a friend. I put away six beers in a couple hours without noticing. This doesn't mean I wasn't drunk, just that I was so manic I didn't take notice.

Conversely, right after coming off a 9-day retreat, my attention was so finely tuned, I noticed the effects of just one beer. Also, food tasted wonderful - the way it does when you're stoned.
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Fitter Stoke, modified 11 Years ago at 12/12/12 10:57 AM
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Jason B:
Voku Hila:
What happens if an arahant takes drugs?


It isn't pretty.


I thought it was like this.
Jason , modified 11 Years ago at 12/12/12 11:05 AM
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Fitter Stoke:
Jason B:
Voku Hila:
What happens if an arahant takes drugs?


It isn't pretty.


I thought it was like this.


Hilarious! Nice to know I'm not the only yogi who is still totally immature.
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John P, modified 11 Years ago at 12/12/12 11:13 AM
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Jason B:
Hilarious! Nice to know I'm not the only yogi who is still totally immature.

It depends whether you want to become an arahat or an arahahahat :-)
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Fitter Stoke, modified 11 Years ago at 12/12/12 11:21 AM
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John P:
Jason B:
Hilarious! Nice to know I'm not the only yogi who is still totally immature.

It depends whether you want to become an arahat or an arahahahat :-)


I sometimes like tagging things with #arhatsnotasshats
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Pål S, modified 11 Years ago at 12/12/12 3:19 PM
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Fitter Stoke:
Jason B:
Voku Hila:
What happens if an arahant takes drugs?


It isn't pretty.


I thought it was like this.


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Fitter Stoke, modified 11 Years ago at 12/12/12 4:38 PM
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Pål S.:
Fitter Stoke:
Jason B:
Voku Hila:
What happens if an arahant takes drugs?


It isn't pretty.


I thought it was like this.




One toke, and Parabola instantly starts playing.
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Voku Hila, modified 11 Years ago at 12/13/12 10:38 AM
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Arahat Party Time!

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Nick P, modified 11 Years ago at 12/13/12 4:42 PM
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