Digital Immortality - The Opposite of the Buddhist Goal

Tom Tom, modified 10 Years ago at 6/27/13 4:46 PM
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Digital Immortality - The Opposite of the Buddhist Goal

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2344398/Google-futurist-claims-uploading-entire-MINDS-computers-2045-bodies-replaced-machines-90-years.html

"Ray Kurzweil - director of engineering at Google - claims that by 2045 humans will be able to upload their entire minds to computers and become digitally immortal - an event called singularity. "

This is the exact opposite of the goal of Buddhism. Is this the fetter of "craving for existence" gone too far? What happens when "you" are uploaded and "you" find out it's not what "you" really wanted? Should this be stopped by getting these people to meditate to see the truth?
Matthew, modified 10 Years ago at 6/27/13 5:46 PM
Created 10 Years ago at 6/27/13 5:45 PM

RE: Digital Immortality - The Opposite of the Buddhist Goal

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From Wikipedia derived from the Cakkavatti Sutta:

"Buddhism believes in cycles in which life span of human beings changes according to human nature. In Cakkavati sutta the Buddha explained the relationship between life span of human being and behaviour. As per this sutta, In the past unskillful behavior was unknown among the human race. As a result, people lived for an immensely long time — 80,000 years — endowed with great beauty, wealth, pleasure, and strength. Over the course of time, though, they began behaving in various unskillful ways. This caused the human life span gradually to shorten, to the point where it now stands at 100 years, with human beauty, wealth, pleasure, and strength decreasing proportionately. In the future, as morality continues to degenerate, human life will continue to shorten to the point were the normal life span is 10 years, with people reaching sexual maturity at five.

Ultimately, conditions will deteriorate to the point of a "sword-interval," in which swords appear in the hands of all human beings, and they hunt one another like game. A few people, however, will take shelter in the wilderness to escape the carnage, and when the slaughter is over, they will come out of hiding and resolve to take up a life of skillful and virtuous action again. With the recovery of virtue, the human life span will gradually increase again until it reaches 80,000 years, with people attaining sexual maturity at 500."

The quote above isn't really relevant to meditation, but I have wondered how it could be possible for beings on the human plane to live for such absurd lengths of time. I don't think a digital existence, meaning human mind software running on more stable hardware, is inherently bad. We are cruising for extinction unless we implement population controls, colonization of the solar system, digital minds, and/or successful insight meditation by a large chunk of the population*, and if we disappear, Shakyamuni's dharma disappears [from the human realm] with us.

*I believe this would lead to open interaction with devas as semi-equals; this wouldn't automatically solve any of our problems, except humans would view devas as the quintessential other instead of humans belonging to a different race/nation/creed, with various consequences.

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