Can of worms:) DhO mini-scholarship

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katy steger,thru11615 with thanks, modified 10 Years ago at 11/20/13 5:43 PM
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Can of worms:) DhO mini-scholarship

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Hi Daniel and DhObies,

So people routinely want to donate to this site in gratitude and Daniel routinely keeps paying for it, all that that entails, encouraging a "practice well is the best payment" mode and enabling our chance to practice together (and all that that entails, including some combativeness discourse, to which I've certainly contributed/unwound here).

Being plugged into TEDtalks since 2008 and Upworthy for the last few weeks (thanks again, Vijay) and reading such great efforts here every week on the DhO and in private emails I thought, "Huh, why not open a big can of worms and have a DhO scholarship in specific thanks for what Daniel started and gives us?"

Specifically, I was watching this tonight (http://www.upworthy.com/a-15-year-old-with-a-huge-brain-and-an-even-bigger-heart-blows-mit-away-3?c=upw1) and thinking about the researchers who sometimes work with participants on this site and thinking we could just be a small resource to help someone at the end of every year.


Ironically, this could cause another expense for the founder and I want to avoid that. So I'm thinking that a passive thread could be started, "So you really want to donate..." with a link to some site that handles this stuff (Paypal?) and just explain in the thread that at present the founder is generous and stubborn and therefore aDhO scholarship has been set up.

This doesn't have to happen. There are many ways to say thanks, go back to "just practice well", but it's a thought that occurs.

I don't know how the scholarship would be defined or decided each year. I don't know that Daniel wants something else to decide, but this is a thought about what to do with the deep thanks people feel for the site and founder and practice.

Thoughts?
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Daniel M Ingram, modified 10 Years ago at 11/20/13 6:12 PM
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What did you want the scholarship money to support and who would it go to and who would decide that?

I somehow got lost and didn't figure out exactly what you were trying to say.
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katy steger,thru11615 with thanks, modified 10 Years ago at 11/20/13 7:11 PM
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RE: Can of worms:) DhO mini-scholarship

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Hi Daniel,

Daniel M. Ingram:
What did you want the scholarship money to support and who would it go to and who would decide that?

I somehow got lost and didn't figure out exactly what you were trying to say.


1. Thank you for the site, Daniel. Your thoughts are most welcome;I wasn't sure if you'd reply to this thread or not. It could be a sort of nuisance for you.


2. If I wrote the thread, tonight it would read,

"The founder of the site still does not accept monetary donations for its upkeep and upgrades.

However, if you were linked to this thread or found it on your own, then that means you were actively looking or asking for how to donate moolah in thanks to the DharmaOverground and/or its founder. The founder did not set up this thread, nor ask for it to be set up, nor even hint at it. It could be a slight headache for the founder...

So, first, please consider donating sincere practice; the site was founded for diligent practice with co-adventurers.

And, second, if you really want to donate some moolah, there's a small scholarship and no one knows how it'll be given. Maybe it will go to a researcher who's worked with the group to offset MRI/participant costs, maybe it will go to a crisis relief effort, a patient, maybe it will got to pizza for some ER staff somewhere down South, maybe it will go to site costs some day. Maybe it will be decided as a group during a 7-day window from December 25-January 1.

So for those of us who feel our lives were changed by having this place as a turning point for taming the stressed minds and who want the DharmaOverground to be able to make some small classic contribution to someone else (without getting caught up in "team DhO" or "DhO status"), here it is. "


My thinking is amounts would be likely be small (a lot of students use the site and the overall economy is a bit thin, too, and people give elsewhere/sustain), but that it would provide an outlet for the persistent sentiment of moolah-dana arising here, and it'd could provide something specific. Yes, I'd handle it if no one else does (and the transparency of that would maybe come up once a year, to prevent a recurrent "donation" thread from coming up like an NPR fundraiser-- love NPR, though).

If nothing comes of it, this thread can be used as a reference for yet another place explaining why monetary donation has been ruled out so far. emoticon
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Daniel M Ingram, modified 10 Years ago at 11/20/13 7:27 PM
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RE: Can of worms:) DhO mini-scholarship

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Ok, that's interesting, and a wide range of possible uses for the money. I think it would be interesting to figure out how the decisions for the use of the money would be decided, as those things can get tricky.

My current favorite charities, in case anyone is interested, are The DhO, Greenpeace, Doctors Without Borders, and the ACLU (not that I like all the people the ACLU helps, like the KKK, but I do like civil rights and freedom), and I give to those monthly, along with Buddhist Geeks, which is about to be a formal non-profit after it finishes its restructuring, and I think is worthy of support, in case anyone is interesting in helping a good and useful dharma organization that really could use the cash right now...
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katy steger,thru11615 with thanks, modified 10 Years ago at 11/20/13 7:36 PM
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Daniel M. Ingram:
Ok, that's interesting, and a wide range of possible uses for the money. I think it would be interesting to figure out how the decisions for the use of the money would be decided, as those things can get tricky.

My current favorite charities, in case anyone is interested, are The DhO, Greenpeace, Doctors Without Borders, and the ACLU (not that I like all the people the ACLU helps, like the KKK, but I do like civil rights and freedom), and I give to those monthly, along with Buddhist Geeks, which is about to be a formal non-profit after it finishes its restructuring, and I think is worthy of support, in case anyone is interesting in helping a good and useful dharma organization that really could use the cash right now...


Nice, I find the above useful. So I/anyone could also contribute to those causes (or one's own) and in the "note" section just thank here, DhO/founder. I've done this before, actually, and it's like a modern "merit sharing" practice.


I'll keep my eye on this thread and pick it up again in December.

Thank you.
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katy steger,thru11615 with thanks, modified 10 Years ago at 12/5/13 8:56 AM
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Daniel:
My current favorite charities, in case anyone is interested, are (...) Greenpeace (...)


Okay, well, I'm a tiny sustaining member in your honour, Daniel, now. Thank you for setting up this community- and self-study site, hosting candidly some of the most difficult questions and comments that people may not raise on retreat/in person.

I like the GP organization, too, how it supports sentients and systems that cannot fundraise nor advertise for themselves. Aside: when I lived in Alaska I remember a GP volunteer saying that oil employees where some of his best anonymous donors; they would thank GP for upholding human responsibility for environment as they couldn't see themselves leaving their work/society changing off oil, but knew their companies needed strong countermeasure in how/where they operated.
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triple think, modified 10 Years ago at 12/5/13 3:16 PM
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