How far you willing to go..

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How far you willing to go..

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Turnings_of_the_Wheel_of_Dharma
First Turning
The first turning is traditionally said to have taken place at Deer Park in Sarnath near Varanasi in northern India, to an audience of shravakas. It consisted of the teaching of the Four Noble Truths (Sanskrit: catvāry āryasatyāni[1]) and the other elements of the Tripitaka – the Abhidharma, Sutrapitaka and Vinaya. The Abhidharma referred to is the Abhidharma Pitaka of the Sarvastivada school, which is a later composition not taught by the Buddha, and contains philosophy which is antithetical, one may say, to the early teachings.

Second Turning
The second turning is said to have taken place at Vulture Peak Mountain in Rajagriha, in Bihar, India. The audience comprised bodhisattvas; in some telling there were also shravaka arhats there as well, who promptly had heart attacks and died from the shock of the new teachings. In the second turning, the emphasis is on emptiness (Skt: śūnyāta) as epitomized in the Prajnaparamita sutras, and on compassion (Skt: karuṇā). These two elements formbodhicitta, the epitome of the second turning. The Madhyamika school that Nagarjuna founded arose from his exegesis of the early texts and is included under the second turning. Nagarjuna attacked the metaphysics of the Sarvastivada school and a school which broke away from it called Sautrantika, and promoted, among other things, the classical emphasis on the dependent arising of phenomena of the early texts.

Third Turning
The third turning was also delivered to an audience of bodhisattvas in Shravasti and other Indian locations (e.g. in Kusinagara, to Bodhisattvas and onlooking Buddhas, in the Mahaparinirvana Sutra) – or even in transcendental Buddhic realms (in the Avatamsaka Sutra). The focal point of the third turning is Buddha nature and particularly the Tathāgatagarbha doctrine. This was elaborated on in great detail by Maitreya via Asanga in the Five Treatises of Maitreya, which are also generally grouped under the third turning. The Yogachara school reoriented later refinements, in all their complexity, so as to accord with the doctrines of earliest Buddhism.

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RE: How far you willing to go..

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Rist Ei:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Turnings_of_the_Wheel_of_Dharma
First Turning
The first turning is traditionally said to have taken place at Deer Park in Sarnath near Varanasi in northern India, to an audience of shravakas. It consisted of the teaching of the Four Noble Truths (Sanskrit: catvāry āryasatyāni[1]) and the other elements of the Tripitaka – the Abhidharma, Sutrapitaka and Vinaya. The Abhidharma referred to is the Abhidharma Pitaka of the Sarvastivada school, which is a later composition not taught by the Buddha, and contains philosophy which is antithetical, one may say, to the early teachings.

Second Turning
The second turning is said to have taken place at Vulture Peak Mountain in Rajagriha, in Bihar, India. The audience comprised bodhisattvas; in some telling there were also shravaka arhats there as well, who promptly had heart attacks and died from the shock of the new teachings. In the second turning, the emphasis is on emptiness (Skt: śūnyāta) as epitomized in the Prajnaparamita sutras, and on compassion (Skt: karuṇā). These two elements formbodhicitta, the epitome of the second turning. The Madhyamika school that Nagarjuna founded arose from his exegesis of the early texts and is included under the second turning. Nagarjuna attacked the metaphysics of the Sarvastivada school and a school which broke away from it called Sautrantika, and promoted, among other things, the classical emphasis on the dependent arising of phenomena of the early texts.

Third Turning
The third turning was also delivered to an audience of bodhisattvas in Shravasti and other Indian locations (e.g. in Kusinagara, to Bodhisattvas and onlooking Buddhas, in the Mahaparinirvana Sutra) – or even in transcendental Buddhic realms (in the Avatamsaka Sutra). The focal point of the third turning is Buddha nature and particularly the Tathāgatagarbha doctrine. This was elaborated on in great detail by Maitreya via Asanga in the Five Treatises of Maitreya, which are also generally grouped under the third turning. The Yogachara school reoriented later refinements, in all their complexity, so as to accord with the doctrines of earliest Buddhism.

..that far goes your results.


A perplexing post.

What was your intention with this post, rist ei? Your last line there doesn't make sense to me as an English speaker. Care to elaborate?

Is this one of those stupid-yana VS best-yana VS bestest-yana trigger posts? Or are you actually interested on a practical level what each type of "path" might entail, practice-wise? 

Nick 
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Banned For waht?, modified 9 Years ago at 4/6/15 7:22 AM
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RE: How far you willing to go..

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I am motivated because what Buddha taught is not far from the mythology. That mythology indeed is real. There can be beings like unicorns etc.

So the earth is an island where this kind of beings are like we humans.

But the point is that we all have a Buddha nature- what is the pure Self. Dog has a perfect pure self not obscured by this dog body here and now at the same time.

Buddha essence is real. Its beyond 4th path arhant and bodhisatva.
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self:
peeps are working together or playing together but they are at the same time in their own minds, mind what is there because of desire to have something to oneself.

cessation:
cessation of phenomena(any) is not anatta yet. Cessation is still considered as attainment or a result. Be it unknown or not still its attainment, you can declare its non-attainment but still it is attainment. Everything dies and is prone to suffering and is impermanet this knowledge should initiate you to search what is real from the correct perspective.

anatta:
this is when you discover that your reality or world is conceptual and underneath there is real reality.

Self realization:
When you enter or manifest that real reality. But its not yet it. Its still your self and reality seem separate.

Self merges with the reality:
When the self and its source gets one.

..purification goes so long till there is no fetters.
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