DhO Jabber/XMPP Chat

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Florian, modificado hace 11 años at 30/01/13 17:16
Created 11 años ago at 26/01/13 11:15

DhO Jabber/XMPP Chat

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Hi DhO

as an experiment, I just set up a Jabber (aka XMPP) multi user chat for DhO users to hang out:

dharmaoverground on the server conference.draugr.de (edit: new, faster server)

For those unfamiliar with the Jabber protocol, it's an open standard for which many clients have been written. Most can be used free of charge.

A Wikipedia article on Jabber, pretty technical, for those interested in the details.

In short: you need a client and an account; both can be obtained for free.

Good free clients are Psi and Pidgin.

Once your client is installed, you can simply create a new account on a jabber server - the client software will guide you. Or just ask in this thead.

Jabber is slightly more complicated to use than, say, Skype, but it is not owned by a single company, has a large and geeky community, and several large companies also support it, most notably Google and Facebook. Unfortunately, Google talk, while a Jabber implementation, seems to be unsuitable for connecting to multi user chat rooms like the one I set up, though you can use your Google talk account from a Jabber client, and then it's possible to connect to the chat. Similarly, Facebook chat, while again a Jabber implementation, is locked in to Facebook's walled garden.

So - for those interested, feel free to drop in.

Cheers,
Florian
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Fitter Stoke, modificado hace 11 años at 26/01/13 12:56
Created 11 años ago at 26/01/13 12:36

RE: DhO Jabber/XMPP Chat

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Florian Weps:
Hi DhO

as an experiment, I just set up a Jabber (aka XMPP) multi user chat for DhO users to hang out:

DharmaOverground on the server conference.jabber.org

For those unfamiliar with the Jabber protocol, it's an open standard for which many clients have been written. Most can be used free of charge.

A Wikipedia article on Jabber, pretty technical, for those interested in the details.

In short: you need a client and an account; both can be obtained for free.

Good free clients are Psi and Pidgin.

Once your client is installed, you can simply create a new account on a jabber server - the client software will guide you. Or just ask in this thead.

Jabber is slightly more complicated to use than, say, Skype, but it is not owned by a single company, has a large and geeky community, and several large companies also support it, most notably Google and Facebook. Unfortunately, Google talk, while a Jabber implementation, seems to be unsuitable for connecting to multi user chat rooms like the one I set up, though you can use your Google talk account from a Jabber client, and then it's possible to connect to the chat. Similarly, Facebook chat, while again a Jabber implementation, is locked in to Facebook's walled garden.

So - for those interested, feel free to drop in.

Cheers,
Florian


Tried w/ both Psi and Pidgin and failed. Guess I'm not geeky enough!

(are you sure the server name is right?)
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bud , modificado hace 11 años at 26/01/13 13:03
Created 11 años ago at 26/01/13 13:03

RE: DhO Jabber/XMPP Chat

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Fitter Stoke:

Tried w/ both Psi and Pidgin and failed. Guess I'm not geeky enough!

(are you sure the server name is right?)
Same emoticon

"Could not connect to server"
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Florian, modificado hace 11 años at 26/01/13 16:41
Created 11 años ago at 26/01/13 16:41

RE: DhO Jabber/XMPP Chat

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Did you register a new account with some server?

In Pidgin, coose "Join a chat" from the Buddies menu. Then fill out: Room: DharmaOverground, Server: conference.jabber.org, Handle: (name you'd like to have in the chat).

If you send me your jabber id (username@server), I can also send you an invitation from the chat.

Cheers,
Florian
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Simon T, modificado hace 11 años at 26/01/13 17:41
Created 11 años ago at 26/01/13 17:41

RE: DhO Jabber/XMPP Chat

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I was thinking of creating a Google Hangout. Video is pretty much a must those days. There was attempt on Kenneth Folk forum to maintain a permanent Hangout but I think it failed. Our souls are already owned by the evil corporations of this world. Why not just surrender to them? With the recent Wetpaint debacle, I can understand the sentiment but a chat isn't as much critical.

I tried to connect with Psi to the server you provide and I get a connection error.

To find me on Micro$oft $kype: simontanguay@hotmail.com
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bud , modificado hace 11 años at 26/01/13 17:46
Created 11 años ago at 26/01/13 17:46

RE: DhO Jabber/XMPP Chat

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Got it, thanks. Psi wasn't working, but Pidgin did.
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Daniel M Ingram, modificado hace 11 años at 27/01/13 15:26
Created 11 años ago at 27/01/13 15:26

RE: DhO Jabber/XMPP Chat

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went onto pidgin: what is this about Fink or Macports and compiling from source?

https://www.pidgin.im/download/mac/

?

Daniel
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Florian, modificado hace 11 años at 27/01/13 15:45
Created 11 años ago at 27/01/13 15:45

RE: DhO Jabber/XMPP Chat

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Daniel M. Ingram:
went onto pidgin: what is this about Fink or Macports and compiling from source?

https://www.pidgin.im/download/mac/

?

Daniel


Fink and compiling from source is counter to the whole Apple way of doing things emoticon

For OS X, apparently Adium is a good choice.

Cheers,
Florian
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Daniel M Ingram, modificado hace 11 años at 27/01/13 16:49
Created 11 años ago at 27/01/13 16:49

RE: DhO Jabber/XMPP Chat

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I am feeling a bit dense still:

downloaded Adium, nice green bird logo
got account on jabber: danielmingram@jabber.org
entered that into Adium: so far so good
where do I look enter or look for DharmaOverground in Adium or enter conference.jabber.org?

Daniel
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Daniel M Ingram, modificado hace 11 años at 27/01/13 16:52
Created 11 años ago at 27/01/13 16:52

RE: DhO Jabber/XMPP Chat

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Ah:

click Add Group in the Contact tab...

All clear now
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Florian, modificado hace 11 años at 30/01/13 17:20
Created 11 años ago at 30/01/13 17:20

RE: DhO Jabber/XMPP Chat

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For Android devices, I can recommend the Xabber client.

For IOS, there seems to be a shortage of Multi User Chat capable apps - two that seem to have this feature are "Jabba" and "One Team". Unfortunately, both come with a price.

If someone finds a good IOS client, please post a review here.

I'll try to post a more friendly tutorial for how to configure Pidgin or Psi, with screen shots - but that may take a few days.

Oh, and please note that we moved to a faster server: conference.draugr.de It has a spooky name, but it really is more responsive than the jabber.org one.

Cheers,
Florian
Russell , modificado hace 11 años at 31/01/13 10:32
Created 11 años ago at 31/01/13 10:32

RE: DhO Jabber/XMPP Chat

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Trillian for Windows works as well. Very easy. I am in there now if anyone wants to join.
Russell , modificado hace 11 años at 7/03/13 8:47
Created 11 años ago at 7/03/13 8:47

RE: DhO Jabber/XMPP Chat

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In the chat now. anyone want to join?

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