Skipping into 5th

A Dietrich Ringle, muokattu 3 Vuodet sitten at 17.5.2021 12:21
Created 3 Vuodet ago at 17.5.2021 12:21

Skipping into 5th

Viestejä: 881 Liittymispäivä: 4.12.2011 Viimeisimmät viestit
I am having some trouble. It seems I am locked in to some kind of psychosis. I can ride the jhanic arc by repeating the word "renunciation" but then the whole thing stalls if I try for 5th.
​​​​​​​I don't really have the desire to hang out in 4th but sometimes that's the only option I have and the liminal spaces are opening up. Scary
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Pawel K, muokattu 3 Vuodet sitten at 18.5.2021 16:41
Created 3 Vuodet ago at 18.5.2021 16:41

RE: Skipping into 5th

Viestejä: 1172 Liittymispäivä: 22.2.2020 Viimeisimmät viestit
Concentrate on the object and treat anything else as distraction.
If you have time wondering what jhana you are in and how it feels then this isn't good concentration practice.
Not that jhanas cannot be done differently but you still need to have sufficiently good concentration so concentrate.
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Dream Walker, muokattu 3 Vuodet sitten at 19.5.2021 5:55
Created 3 Vuodet ago at 19.5.2021 5:55

RE: Skipping into 5th

Viestejä: 1741 Liittymispäivä: 18.1.2012 Viimeisimmät viestit
So you are using a mantra of "renunciation" to get concentrated. Maybe that takes you to 4th or not, but to construct 5th jhana you need to stop the mantra and focus on spaciousness. Chill more and feel into space.
Good luck
~D
A Dietrich Ringle, muokattu 3 Vuodet sitten at 19.5.2021 11:30
Created 3 Vuodet ago at 19.5.2021 11:30

RE: Skipping into 5th

Viestejä: 881 Liittymispäivä: 4.12.2011 Viimeisimmät viestit
Thank you for responding!
A Dietrich Ringle, muokattu 3 Vuodet sitten at 19.5.2021 15:02
Created 3 Vuodet ago at 19.5.2021 15:02

RE: Skipping into 5th

Viestejä: 881 Liittymispäivä: 4.12.2011 Viimeisimmät viestit
I am reluctant to say this but I am quite dependent on Ativan to maintain my equinimity. Maybe not but rational self says yes.