Amygdala bliss to dark night - Discussion
Amygdala bliss to dark night
Stick Man, muokattu 9 Vuodet sitten at 13.10.2014 23:22
Created 9 Vuodet ago at 12.10.2014 15:57
Amygdala bliss to dark night
Viestejä: 396 Liittymispäivä: 23.9.2014 Viimeisimmät viestit
Watching a video on the neuroscience of meditation, I see an explanation that the amygdala has two sides, one dealing with happiness and one dealing with fear. If the stimulation of the happiness side becomes intense enough then the activity spills over to the other side and activates fear. This is supposed to be the origin of the cycles of bliss and dark night.
Is this a well known explanation ?
Is this a well known explanation ?
bernd the broter, muokattu 9 Vuodet sitten at 13.10.2014 6:39
Created 9 Vuodet ago at 13.10.2014 6:39
RE: Amygdala bliss to dark night
Viestejä: 376 Liittymispäivä: 13.6.2012 Viimeisimmät viestit
I don't know if it's somehow related to meditation.
I just remember Brene Brown saying that there are studies showing that joyful events are likely to lead to relapses of depression, alcoholism etc.
Can't have one without the other obviously.
I just remember Brene Brown saying that there are studies showing that joyful events are likely to lead to relapses of depression, alcoholism etc.
Can't have one without the other obviously.
Richard Zen, muokattu 9 Vuodet sitten at 13.10.2014 21:57
Created 9 Vuodet ago at 13.10.2014 21:55
RE: Amygdala bliss to dark night
Viestejä: 1665 Liittymispäivä: 18.5.2010 Viimeisimmät viestit
This might be the one you're thinking of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqrpKUTMXgY
Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amygdala#Hemispheric_specializations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqrpKUTMXgY
Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amygdala#Hemispheric_specializations
There are functional differences between the right and left amygdala. In one study, electrical stimulations of the right amygdala induced negative emotions, especially fear and sadness. In contrast, stimulation of the left amygdala was able to induce either pleasant (happiness) or unpleasant (fear, anxiety, sadness) emotions. Other evidence suggests that the left amygdala plays a role in the brain's reward system.
Stick Man, muokattu 9 Vuodet sitten at 28.11.2014 17:01
Created 9 Vuodet ago at 13.10.2014 23:13
RE: Amygdala bliss to dark night
Viestejä: 396 Liittymispäivä: 23.9.2014 Viimeisimmät viestit
That's the Jimmy, yes. I didn't want to dig through his videos again to find the exact bit but you've got it there. Murphy says that prolonged intense stimulation of the happy side can cause a spillover of neural activity into the dark side so I wonder if there is any other confirmatory work on this ?
He also says, if I remember, eventually this spillover can stop leaving a permanent enhanced connection to the happy side.
I wonder if I could ask him to stop by the forum and explain ?
He also says, if I remember, eventually this spillover can stop leaving a permanent enhanced connection to the happy side.
I wonder if I could ask him to stop by the forum and explain ?
Richard Zen, muokattu 9 Vuodet sitten at 13.10.2014 23:21
Created 9 Vuodet ago at 13.10.2014 23:21
RE: Amygdala bliss to dark night
Viestejä: 1665 Liittymispäivä: 18.5.2010 Viimeisimmät viestitJohn:
I wonder if I could ask him to stop by the forum and explain ?
Ultimately that would be the best, since he can give more details or point to other studies that back him up.
Malte, muokattu 9 Vuodet sitten at 24.4.2015 14:05
Created 9 Vuodet ago at 24.4.2015 14:05
RE: Amygdala bliss to dark night
Viestejä: 38 Liittymispäivä: 24.4.2015 Viimeisimmät viestit
Another explanation from a psychodynamic perspective would be that many people (especially those prone to depression, abuse etc) also have a critical mental stance towards themselves and also states of pleasure, joy and happiness can in some cases trigger anxiety because of early relational history of being punished for having a good time. Translated into psychodynamics in adulthood, this means the persons own superego (internalised care-takers) moves to punish the person for feeling good/doing something good for themselves. This also then triggers anxiety.
No idea if this can account for any of the above mentioned relationships between the phenomenas of joy and anxiety, but wanted to add these thoughts also. (I'm a clinical psychologist so also the above is not only theoretical as it's also from experiences in therapy with people).
No idea if this can account for any of the above mentioned relationships between the phenomenas of joy and anxiety, but wanted to add these thoughts also. (I'm a clinical psychologist so also the above is not only theoretical as it's also from experiences in therapy with people).
Not Tao, muokattu 9 Vuodet sitten at 24.4.2015 18:57
Created 9 Vuodet ago at 24.4.2015 18:57
RE: Amygdala bliss to dark night
Viestejä: 995 Liittymispäivä: 5.4.2014 Viimeisimmät viestitMalte:
(I'm a clinical psychologist so also the above is not only theoretical as it's also from experiences in therapy with people).
Hey Malte, I hope you stick around. You could probably add an interesting point of view here.