Six words of advice - Tilopa

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Richard Zen, muokattu 9 Vuodet sitten at 13.10.2014 23:58
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Six words of advice - Tilopa

Viestejä: 1665 Liittymispäivä: 18.5.2010 Viimeisimmät viestit
http://www.unfetteredmind.org/includes/sixwords.pdf

Another good Mahamudra list:
Don’t recall
(Let go of what has passed) 

Don’t imagine
(Let go of what may come)

Don’t think
(Let go of what is happening now)

Don’t examine
(Don’t try to figure anything out)
 
Don’t control
(Don’t try to make anything happen)

Rest
(Relax, right now, and rest)
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Not Tao, muokattu 9 Vuodet sitten at 14.10.2014 1:44
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RE: Six words of advice - Tilopa

Viestejä: 995 Liittymispäivä: 5.4.2014 Viimeisimmät viestit
This also sounds like the dzogchen "pointing out" - are they essentially the same thing?  I always liked these tibetian ideas.
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Richard Zen, muokattu 9 Vuodet sitten at 14.10.2014 9:02
Created 9 Vuodet ago at 14.10.2014 9:02

RE: Six words of advice - Tilopa

Viestejä: 1665 Liittymispäivä: 18.5.2010 Viimeisimmät viestit
I think this looks more like instructions for Shikantaza since it looks for all the possible clingings that could be there and what to let go of. Of couse you wouldn't want to do this in daily life when you actually need to think, recall etc.
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Not Tao, muokattu 9 Vuodet sitten at 14.10.2014 15:32
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RE: Six words of advice - Tilopa

Viestejä: 995 Liittymispäivä: 5.4.2014 Viimeisimmät viestit
This might be something to examine, but I don't think these pairs match up:

Don’t recall
(Let go of what has passed)

Don’t imagine
(Let go of what may come)

Don’t think
(Let go of what is happening now)

If you're letting go, does that really mean stopping various mental processes, or does it mean allowing them without inhibitions. The last one especially, I think letting go of what's happening can cause a lot of thoughts to "break loose" so to speak. I think I favor the bottom lines over the top. The top sounds like a lot of "doing," which goes against the very last line saying to rest.
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Richard Zen, muokattu 9 Vuodet sitten at 14.10.2014 17:29
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RE: Six words of advice - Tilopa

Viestejä: 1665 Liittymispäivä: 18.5.2010 Viimeisimmät viestit
Yeah the second lines are more detailed. Letting go is not repressing.
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Richard Zen, muokattu 9 Vuodet sitten at 22.11.2014 13:47
Created 9 Vuodet ago at 22.11.2014 13:47

RE: Six words of advice - Tilopa

Viestejä: 1665 Liittymispäivä: 18.5.2010 Viimeisimmät viestit
Paweł K:
Richard Zen:
Of couse you wouldn't want to do this in daily life when you actually need to think, recall etc.

you won't make it very far in this enlightenment business with attitude such as that <lol>
You what I mean? Doing math and blocking thoughts is not a good idea. emoticon
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Dave sdfsdf, muokattu 9 Vuodet sitten at 22.11.2014 17:23
Created 9 Vuodet ago at 22.11.2014 17:23

RE: Six words of advice - Tilopa

Viestejä: 216 Liittymispäivä: 4.11.2014 Viimeisimmät viestit
About math. Though I've found that thinking dont solve problems for me. When I program it just comes to me. Designing stuff requires planning and structure but usually one thinks way to much. Thats why most software, websites and what not is really bloated and sucky. The voice in the head dont really help all that much. I only here it when I have write in english when writing in native its not needed. Its a little weird.

But I like the mahamudranstuff above. Though Im really clueless about what that is really.
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Bryan, muokattu 9 Vuodet sitten at 31.10.2014 0:39
Created 9 Vuodet ago at 31.10.2014 0:39

RE: Six words of advice - Tilopa

Viestejä: 9 Liittymispäivä: 23.10.2014 Viimeisimmät viestit
Tilopa's advice is Mahamudra. Very similar to Dzogchen practice. Also from Tilopa's Mahamudra Upadesha that you may also like:

"Your body has no core, hollow like bamboo.
 Your mind goes beyond thought, open like space.
 Let go of control and rest right there. "

and

"At first, practice is a river rushing through a gorge.
In the middle, it’s the river Ganges, smooth and flowing.
In the end, it's where all rivers meet, mother and child."

with metta, Bryan
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(D Z) Dhru Val, muokattu 9 Vuodet sitten at 14.10.2014 23:19
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RE: Six words of advice - Tilopa

Viestejä: 346 Liittymispäivä: 18.9.2011 Viimeisimmät viestit
Song of Mahamudra - by Tilopa, its like these words but more comprehensive. always calms me down without fail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaZHrg_7EAA
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Richard Zen, muokattu 9 Vuodet sitten at 14.10.2014 23:48
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RE: Six words of advice - Tilopa

Viestejä: 1665 Liittymispäivä: 18.5.2010 Viimeisimmät viestit
Very relaxing.
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Jeremy May, muokattu 9 Vuodet sitten at 31.10.2014 21:04
Created 9 Vuodet ago at 31.10.2014 21:04

RE: Six words of advice - Tilopa

Viestejä: 191 Liittymispäivä: 12.8.2014 Viimeisimmät viestit
Recall 
(What has passed?) 

Imagine
(Oh what may come!)

Think 
(What is happening now?)

Examine 
(Try to figure Everything out)
 
control 
(Try to make Something happen)

Act
(Live.  Don't die before your time)
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Jeremy May, muokattu 9 Vuodet sitten at 31.10.2014 22:38
Created 9 Vuodet ago at 31.10.2014 22:38

RE: Six words of advice - Tilopa

Viestejä: 191 Liittymispäivä: 12.8.2014 Viimeisimmät viestit
Not Tao has made me want to say it twice!

Recall 
(What has passed?) 

Imagine
(Oh what may come!)

Think 
(What is happening now?)

Examine 
(Try to figure Everything out)
 
control 
(Try to make Something happen)

Act
(Live.  Don't die before your time)
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Richard Zen, muokattu 9 Vuodet sitten at 22.11.2014 9:40
Created 9 Vuodet ago at 22.11.2014 9:39

RE: Six words of advice - Tilopa

Viestejä: 1665 Liittymispäivä: 18.5.2010 Viimeisimmät viestit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJbUHgbn2e0

Tilopa's Mahamudra. Fun soundtrack! emoticon
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