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stopping negative thoughts
This Good Self, muokattu 8 Vuodet sitten at 29.2.2016 22:59
Created 8 Vuodet ago at 29.2.2016 22:57
stopping negative thoughts
Viestejä: 946 Liittymispäivä: 9.3.2010 Viimeisimmät viestit
There's a lot written and posted about the impossibility of controlling thoughts, or thought stopping.
I just want to say that I found the practice helpful.
I watched my thoughts, and if anything negative appeared, I stopped it. It worked very well.
Why do people say not to stop negative thoughts?
I just want to say that I found the practice helpful.
I watched my thoughts, and if anything negative appeared, I stopped it. It worked very well.
Why do people say not to stop negative thoughts?
Psi, muokattu 8 Vuodet sitten at 1.3.2016 14:14
Created 8 Vuodet ago at 1.3.2016 14:14
RE: stopping negative thoughts
Viestejä: 1099 Liittymispäivä: 22.11.2013 Viimeisimmät viestitC C C:
There's a lot written and posted about the impossibility of controlling thoughts, or thought stopping.
I just want to say that I found the practice helpful.
I watched my thoughts, and if anything negative appeared, I stopped it. It worked very well.
I watched my thoughts, and if anything negative appeared, I stopped it. It worked very well.
Why do people say not to stop negative thoughts?
Put it out as if your head was on fire!!
Woooohoooo!!!!
Psi
Ian And, muokattu 8 Vuodet sitten at 1.3.2016 17:36
Created 8 Vuodet ago at 1.3.2016 17:33
RE: stopping negative thoughts
Viestejä: 785 Liittymispäivä: 22.8.2009 Viimeisimmät viestitC C C:
There's a lot written and posted about the impossibility of controlling thoughts, or thought stopping.
I just want to say that I found the practice helpful.
I watched my thoughts, and if anything negative appeared, I stopped it. It worked very well.
I just want to say that I found the practice helpful.
I watched my thoughts, and if anything negative appeared, I stopped it. It worked very well.
Congratulations, CCC. You're making progress.
You see, the practice works: "When those evil unwholesome thoughts connected with desire, hate, and delusion, which have arisen owing to (wrong) attention given to an object, have been abandoned in a monk and have subsided (due to his applying these five methods) and when (due to that) his mind has become steady and settled, unified and concentrated -- then that monk is called a master of the pathways of thoughts: he will think the thoughts he wants to think and will not think those he does not want to think. He has cut off craving, severed the fetter (to existence) and with the full penetration of conceit, he has made an end of suffering." (MN 20; Vitakkasanthana Sutta; Translation by Nyanaponika Thera, from his book The Vision of Dhamma)
Eva Nie, muokattu 8 Vuodet sitten at 1.3.2016 22:15
Created 8 Vuodet ago at 1.3.2016 22:15
RE: stopping negative thoughts
Viestejä: 831 Liittymispäivä: 23.3.2014 Viimeisimmät viestitC C C:
There's a lot written and posted about the impossibility of controlling thoughts, or thought stopping.
I just want to say that I found the practice helpful.
I watched my thoughts, and if anything negative appeared, I stopped it. It worked very well.
Why do people say not to stop negative thoughts?
Robert, muokattu 8 Vuodet sitten at 2.3.2016 2:15
Created 8 Vuodet ago at 2.3.2016 2:13
RE: stopping negative thoughts
Viestejä: 100 Liittymispäivä: 8.5.2015 Viimeisimmät viestitC C C:
There's a lot written and posted about the impossibility of controlling thoughts, or thought stopping.
I just want to say that I found the practice helpful.
I watched my thoughts, and if anything negative appeared, I stopped it. It worked very well.
Why do people say not to stop negative thoughts?
I just want to say that I found the practice helpful.
I watched my thoughts, and if anything negative appeared, I stopped it. It worked very well.
Why do people say not to stop negative thoughts?
That just seems like the mind (thought) has spread out as the controller and is taken to be oneself. A subtler form but still the same thing as before, with added suppression which could be seen as a form of violence..
Not stating an opinion here, just an observation.
Andreas Thef, muokattu 8 Vuodet sitten at 2.3.2016 2:30
Created 8 Vuodet ago at 2.3.2016 2:16
RE: stopping negative thoughts
Viestejä: 152 Liittymispäivä: 11.2.2013 Viimeisimmät viestitWhy do people say not to stop negative thoughts?
This Good Self, muokattu 8 Vuodet sitten at 2.3.2016 2:36
Created 8 Vuodet ago at 2.3.2016 2:35
RE: stopping negative thoughts
Viestejä: 946 Liittymispäivä: 9.3.2010 Viimeisimmät viestit.
Robert, muokattu 8 Vuodet sitten at 2.3.2016 2:47
Created 8 Vuodet ago at 2.3.2016 2:44
RE: stopping negative thoughts
Viestejä: 100 Liittymispäivä: 8.5.2015 Viimeisimmät viestitC C C:
Thanks for all the input everyone. I'm considerig it all, except the comment about 'violence' which I don't understand.
The attitude of "You shouldn't appear.", "Shut up", "You're unwanted" is not very peaceful in my opinion. And that's not the nature of reality either. The suppression might not be seen that clearly as described in the first sentence though, but that seems to be the attitude among many meditators. It's a bit like you're trying to suffocate an aspect of yourself which you don't like (because you're believing your thoughts about how things should or shouln't be). That's what was referred to.
This Good Self, muokattu 8 Vuodet sitten at 2.3.2016 3:42
Created 8 Vuodet ago at 2.3.2016 3:42
RE: stopping negative thoughts
Viestejä: 946 Liittymispäivä: 9.3.2010 Viimeisimmät viestitRobert:
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Thanks for all the input everyone. I'm considerig it all, except the comment about 'violence' which I don't understand.
The attitude of "You shouldn't appear.", "Shut up", "You're unwanted" is not very peaceful in my opinion. And that's not the nature of reality either. The suppression might not be seen that clearly as described in the first sentence though, but that seems to be the attitude among many meditators. It's a bit like you're trying to suffocate an aspect of yourself which you don't like (because you're believing your thoughts about how things should or shouln't be). That's what was referred to.
I've been thinking about the whole suppression thing. Looks like it's an issue if you go "lalalalalalala" in order to prevent the arising of such thoughts into consciousness, creating a pressure cooker. But I'm wathing carefully, and as soon as I see it, I hit DELETE.
Hopefully I'll make more progress.
Robert, muokattu 8 Vuodet sitten at 2.3.2016 7:16
Created 8 Vuodet ago at 2.3.2016 7:16
RE: stopping negative thoughts
Viestejä: 100 Liittymispäivä: 8.5.2015 Viimeisimmät viestit
So how can you be sure that that isn't thought activity based on the sense of separation that is driving the show? If it is, it will never get you anywhere because that "you" that thinks he/she is hoping for progression is just part of the thought stream that isn't recognized as thoughts. The polar opposite of the thoughts that it sees as unwanted. Two sides but the coin is one.
That whole activity seems to be coming out of the idea of purity. That idea hasn't worked in the world (look at history) and it isn't working any better psychologically although it might seem otherwise at the moment.
That whole activity seems to be coming out of the idea of purity. That idea hasn't worked in the world (look at history) and it isn't working any better psychologically although it might seem otherwise at the moment.