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Dr. Dan Brown Interview - Indo-Tibetan Path to Full Buddhahood
Liam McClintock, modifié il y a 3 années at 04/09/20 15:13
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Dr. Dan Brown Interview - Indo-Tibetan Path to Full Buddhahood
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Hi All,
Here’s Indo-Tibetan Meditation Master and Harvard Medical School Psychologist Dr. Dan Brown discussing the Mahamudra path to full enlightenment and some of the more “paranormal” capabilities he’s witnessed in Tibet.
Curious your thoughts
Dr. Dan Brown Interview
Here’s Indo-Tibetan Meditation Master and Harvard Medical School Psychologist Dr. Dan Brown discussing the Mahamudra path to full enlightenment and some of the more “paranormal” capabilities he’s witnessed in Tibet.
Curious your thoughts
Dr. Dan Brown Interview
Nick O, modifié il y a 3 années at 05/09/20 16:21
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I'm curious to hear feedback about his retreats. I've been interested in exploring Dzogchen / Mahamudra and he seems to be a great teacher but I would hesitate to fork out $1500 for a retreat.
Noah D, modifié il y a 3 années at 05/09/20 18:48
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RE: Dr. Dan Brown Interview - Indo-Tibetan Path to Full Buddhahood
Publications: 1211 Date d'inscription: 01/09/16 Publications RécentesNick O:
I'm curious to hear feedback about his retreats. I've been interested in exploring Dzogchen / Mahamudra and he seems to be a great teacher but I would hesitate to fork out $1500 for a retreat.
Nick O, modifié il y a 3 années at 05/09/20 23:06
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RE: Dr. Dan Brown Interview - Indo-Tibetan Path to Full Buddhahood
Publications: 2722 Date d'inscription: 26/02/19 Publications RécentesNick O:
I'm curious to hear feedback about his retreats. I've been interested in exploring Dzogchen / Mahamudra and he seems to be a great teacher but I would hesitate to fork out $1500 for a retreat.
Suits like that don't come cheap! I listened to an interview he did with Michael Taft and he told a long story about a philanthropic venture with a good friend of his who ran a hedge fund. Probably just me being cynical, but it seemed boastful and a bit off. I also found he talked really fast and seemed like he was trying to display as much expertise/learning as possible and was quite rigid. But again, that's just based on listening to a 1 hour interview and my own prejudices.
Olivier S, modifié il y a 3 années at 06/09/20 07:39
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RE: Dr. Dan Brown Interview - Indo-Tibetan Path to Full Buddhahood
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RE: Dr. Dan Brown Interview - Indo-Tibetan Path to Full Buddhahood
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RE: Dr. Dan Brown Interview - Indo-Tibetan Path to Full Buddhahood
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Thanks Noah! I'll probably do one of the early 2021 ones. Did you do two level 1 retreats?
Sam Gentile, modifié il y a 3 années at 06/09/20 11:39
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RE: Dr. Dan Brown Interview - Indo-Tibetan Path to Full Buddhahood
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Nick O:
I'm curious to hear feedback about his retreats. I've been interested in exploring Dzogchen / Mahamudra and he seems to be a great teacher but I would hesitate to fork out $1500 for a retreat.
Suits like that don't come cheap! I listened to an interview he did with Michael Taft and he told a long story about a philanthropic venture with a good friend of his who ran a hedge fund. Probably just me being cynical, but it seemed boastful and a bit off. I also found he talked really fast and seemed like he was trying to display as much expertise/learning as possible and was quite rigid. But again, that's just based on listening to a 1 hour interview and my own prejudices.
I lisented to that same interview just yesterday and he really does seen to talk really fast and try to displat as much expertise/learning as possible but then on the other hand, he has been entrusted with teachings that nobody in the West has ever seen or gotten.
Sam Gentile, modifié il y a 3 années at 06/09/20 12:26
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RE: Dr. Dan Brown Interview - Indo-Tibetan Path to Full Buddhahood
Publications: 1310 Date d'inscription: 04/05/20 Publications RécentesNoah D:
Nick O:
I'm curious to hear feedback about his retreats. I've been interested in exploring Dzogchen / Mahamudra and he seems to be a great teacher but I would hesitate to fork out $1500 for a retreat.
George S, modifié il y a 3 années at 06/09/20 12:54
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RE: Dr. Dan Brown Interview - Indo-Tibetan Path to Full Buddhahood
Publications: 2722 Date d'inscription: 26/02/19 Publications RécentesSam Gentile:
I lisented to that same interview just yesterday and he really does seen to talk really fast and try to displat as much expertise/learning as possible but then on the other hand, he has been entrusted with teachings that nobody in the West has ever seen or gotten.
I'm generally distrustful of secret teachings and lineage - it smells of marketing + inherited wealth.
Jinxed P, modifié il y a 3 années at 07/09/20 13:19
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RE: Dr. Dan Brown Interview - Indo-Tibetan Path to Full Buddhahood
Publications: 347 Date d'inscription: 29/08/11 Publications RécentesNoah D:
Nick O:
I'm curious to hear feedback about his retreats. I've been interested in exploring Dzogchen / Mahamudra and he seems to be a great teacher but I would hesitate to fork out $1500 for a retreat.
Care to expand on this Noah?
Jinxed P, modifié il y a 3 années at 07/09/20 13:29
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He makes some radical, unbelievable claims.
1. Complete extirpation of negative emotions
2. Full concentration abilities (all 9 stages) in 2.5 days with proper instruction
3. Saw a guy walk on water
4. rainbow body is real.
1. Complete extirpation of negative emotions
2. Full concentration abilities (all 9 stages) in 2.5 days with proper instruction
3. Saw a guy walk on water
4. rainbow body is real.
T DC, modifié il y a 3 années at 07/09/20 14:02
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There do seem to be a wide variety of accounts of rainbow body, can't speak for the Dan Brown but I'm leaving the option open. ;)
Sam Gentile, modifié il y a 3 années at 07/09/20 14:31
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Read any of Tulku Urygen Rinpoche's books. Rainbow Body is real and has been observed many times
mrdust, modifié il y a 3 années at 07/09/20 15:55
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RE: Dr. Dan Brown Interview - Indo-Tibetan Path to Full Buddhahood
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RE: Dr. Dan Brown Interview - Indo-Tibetan Path to Full Buddhahood
Publications: 347 Date d'inscription: 29/08/11 Publications RécentesSam Gentile:
Read any of Tulku Urygen Rinpoche's books. Rainbow Body is real and has been observed many times
Just because he wrote it doesn't mean it's real. His books are full of lots of fantastical nonsense.
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence.
Like at minimum, being caught on film.
Jinxed P, modifié il y a 3 années at 07/09/20 16:03
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I should say that I think Dan Brown is fascinating, and probably a fantastic meditation teacher. Just that some of his claims go beyond what science would consider possible, and that imo brings into doubt some of his more plausible claims (in that they don't violate laws of physics) such as getting rid of all negative emotions.
T DC, modifié il y a 3 années at 07/09/20 16:44
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Getting rid of all emotions may be a bizarre and largely unsupportable claim, but don't let that deter you from his views that violate the laws of physics. ;)
Anyhow, science doesn't really know s*** about conciousness, and likely absolutely nothing about effects of an enlightened consciousness on physical matter. And the ultimate nature of physical matter itself is still in question - doesn't string theory basically boil down to "it vibrates" ?
Anyhow, science doesn't really know s*** about conciousness, and likely absolutely nothing about effects of an enlightened consciousness on physical matter. And the ultimate nature of physical matter itself is still in question - doesn't string theory basically boil down to "it vibrates" ?
Noah D, modifié il y a 3 années at 07/09/20 19:33
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RE: Dr. Dan Brown Interview - Indo-Tibetan Path to Full Buddhahood
Publications: 1211 Date d'inscription: 01/09/16 Publications RécentesJinxed P:
Noah D:
Nick O:
I'm curious to hear feedback about his retreats. I've been interested in exploring Dzogchen / Mahamudra and he seems to be a great teacher but I would hesitate to fork out $1500 for a retreat.
Care to expand on this Noah?
In terms of the retreat itself, it's just very carefully designed. The sequence of techniques & the way they are taught is tailored to the modern lay practitioner. They seem to have it down to a science.
Noah D, modifié il y a 3 années at 07/09/20 19:35
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RE: Dr. Dan Brown Interview - Indo-Tibetan Path to Full Buddhahood
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Noah D:
Nick O:
I'm curious to hear feedback about his retreats. I've been interested in exploring Dzogchen / Mahamudra and he seems to be a great teacher but I would hesitate to fork out $1500 for a retreat.
Jinxed P, modifié il y a 3 années at 07/09/20 21:21
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RE: Dr. Dan Brown Interview - Indo-Tibetan Path to Full Buddhahood
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Jinxed P:
Noah D:
Nick O:
I'm curious to hear feedback about his retreats. I've been interested in ex
ploring Dzogchen / Mahamudra and he seems to be a great teacher but I would hesitate to fork out $1500 for a retreat.
ploring Dzogchen / Mahamudra and he seems to be a great teacher but I would hesitate to fork out $1500 for a retreat.
Care to expand on this Noah?
In terms of the retreat itself, it's just very carefully designed. The sequence of techniques & the way they are taught is tailored to the modern lay practitioner. They seem to have it down to a science.
Did you work on concentration practice? what do you think of his claim that the full 9 stages of concentration can be completed in 2.5 days? What was the progressive curriculum?
Noah D, modifié il y a 3 années at 07/09/20 21:34
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Jinxed P:
I did at the retreat since that was on the menu. I've also worked on the elephant path as a daily practice for multiple months at different times in my practice. To this day, I still really suck at pure samatha practice.
I think perhaps because the instructions are so good, that teachers in the POW group can guide students into profoundly concentrated states for them to then leverage for insight, even if those students can't then replicate those states when they go practice at home. I don't think Dr. Brown is making the claim that students who attend 1 POW retreat have permanently attained samatha.
This document has the schedule - https://app.box.com/s/z0mea82l5gfrsi1wl8qyr27krfoxcv4o
Linked to from this page - https://pointingoutway.org/retreats/levels
As the schedule describes, it essentially goes through the 4 yogas of mahamudra which are basically samatha, vipassana, one taste awareness & nondual awareness (or something like that).
Did you work on concentration practice?
I did at the retreat since that was on the menu. I've also worked on the elephant path as a daily practice for multiple months at different times in my practice. To this day, I still really suck at pure samatha practice.
what do you think of his claim that the full 9 stages of concentration can be completed in 2.5 days?
I think perhaps because the instructions are so good, that teachers in the POW group can guide students into profoundly concentrated states for them to then leverage for insight, even if those students can't then replicate those states when they go practice at home. I don't think Dr. Brown is making the claim that students who attend 1 POW retreat have permanently attained samatha.
What was the progressive curriculum?
This document has the schedule - https://app.box.com/s/z0mea82l5gfrsi1wl8qyr27krfoxcv4o
Linked to from this page - https://pointingoutway.org/retreats/levels
As the schedule describes, it essentially goes through the 4 yogas of mahamudra which are basically samatha, vipassana, one taste awareness & nondual awareness (or something like that).
Babs _, modifié il y a 3 années at 09/09/20 11:43
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RE: Dr. Dan Brown Interview - Indo-Tibetan Path to Full Buddhahood
Publications: 709 Date d'inscription: 05/02/13 Publications RécentesJinxed P:
He makes some radical, unbelievable claims.
1. Complete extirpation of negative emotions
1. Complete extirpation of negative emotions
Do traditional theravada sources (texts, masters) discuss complete extirpation of negative emotions at arhat stage?
Sam Gentile, modifié il y a 3 années at 09/09/20 13:07
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RE: Dr. Dan Brown Interview - Indo-Tibetan Path to Full Buddhahood
Publications: 1310 Date d'inscription: 04/05/20 Publications RécentesJinxed P:
Sam Gentile:
Read any of Tulku Urygen Rinpoche's books. Rainbow Body is real and has been observed many times
Just because he wrote it doesn't mean it's real. His books are full of lots of fantastical nonsense.
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence.
Like at minimum, being caught on film.
You're calling Tulku Urygen's books fantastical nonsense?? Have you read them?? He is still considered after his death as the greatest dzogchen master that ever lived. Students of his have pERSONALLY told me their stories of how he could get people to non-dualistic states through his explanation of the pointing out instructions. His history is impeccable.
Author and neuroscientist Sam Harris was a student of Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche. Describing the Dzogchen instruction he received, Harris wrote:
"The genius of Tulku Urgyen was that he could point out the nature of mind with precision and matter-of-factness of teaching a person how to thread a needle and could get an ordinary meditator like me to recognize that consciousness is intrinsically free of self... I came to Tulku Urgyen yearning for the experience of self-transcendence, and in a few minutes he showed me I had no self to transcend... After a few minutes, Tulku Urgyen simply handed me the ability to cut through the illusion of the self directly, even in ordinary states of consciousness. This instruction was, without question, the most important thing I have ever been explicitly taught by another human being. It has given me a way to escape the usual tides of psychological suffering - fear, anger, shame - in an instant."[7]