Reporting Fruition to Goenka AT?

Chunky R Dingo, שונה לפני 1 שנה at 18:04 02/07/22
Created 1 שנה ago at 18:04 02/07/22

Reporting Fruition to Goenka AT?

פרסומים: 2 תאריך הצטרפות: 02/07/22 פרסומים אחרונים
Hiya DHO,

Just curious if anyone has ever reported a fruition, weather that be path or review, to an AT (assistant teacher) on an S.N Goenka Course? Has anyone ever not reported a fruition to a Goenka A.T out of fear? If you have, how did they react? Were you on a 10 day, Long Course, Off Course check in? Any other aspect of interest? 

With Metta,
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Nikolai , שונה לפני 1 שנה at 09:28 24/08/22
Created 1 שנה ago at 09:28 24/08/22

RE: Reporting Fruition to Goenka AT?

פרסומים: 1677 תאריך הצטרפות: 23/01/10 פרסומים אחרונים
I reported fruitions to the then head teacher of NZ Vipassana in Goenka tradition. Back in 2010 on this 10 day course: http://thehamiltonproject.blogspot.com/2011/06/yogis-journal-from-chronic-dark-night.html?m=1

He gave me very good advice. I don't think a normal AT would have. 
Robert Lydon, שונה לפני 2 חודשים at 21:11 03/03/24
Created 2 חודשים ago at 21:11 03/03/24

RE: Reporting Fruition to Goenka AT?

פרסומים: 77 תאריך הצטרפות: 19/06/23 פרסומים אחרונים
Who are these attending and assisting teachers? Is there a list somewhere? How do they get to that spot?

To answer, no I have not but I'm gonna bring up at my next retreat this month and will let you know how it goes.
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Dream Walker, שונה לפני 2 חודשים at 07:49 05/03/24
Created 2 חודשים ago at 07:49 05/03/24

RE: Reporting Fruition to Goenka AT?

פרסומים: 1729 תאריך הצטרפות: 18/01/12 פרסומים אחרונים
Robert Lydon
hi!
Who are these attending and assisting teachers?
Probably on their website
Is there a list somewhere?
Probably on their website
How do they get to that spot?
You might ask them on the website
To answer, no I have not but I'm gonna bring up at my next retreat this month and will let you know how it goes.
To answer? Ummm, ya. You are not answering much.
You are diggin up this posts for what reason?
I'm commenting upon your comments for no good vague reason but in the future I'll ask somebody about stuff.
Good Luck,
~D
Robert Lydon, שונה לפני 1 חודש at 15:33 31/03/24
Created 1 חודש ago at 15:33 31/03/24

RE: Reporting Fruition to Goenka AT?

פרסומים: 77 תאריך הצטרפות: 19/06/23 פרסומים אחרונים
We'll I went on retreat and asked. He was a bit put off by my questions and resistant. His focus was on teaching the techniques and concepts surrounding the techniques. I asked a few questions prior which may have set the assistant teacher into a certain resistant reaction. They assume you are a beginner and treat you like one as they sit on high.

My conclusion is that it is not very helpful to report a Nibanna experience to an AT because they will just say "great, now do it again for good measure." Most teachers would likely say that as opposed to dogmatic scutiny like some on this form do, hem. I kinda agree with the advice. Replicate the approach and see what happens.

My opinion is that you don't need a phenomenology decriscription vetted by a "teacher", or random people on a forum that see this as their purpose, when it happens. The need will fall away as it is unmistakable. If uncertain, try again until certain. Be your own observer.

Dream Walker, do you ever wonder if you are controlling? Do you ever wonder where it comes from? Is it attachment and desire? Wish you the best on your path.

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