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MCTPM ftw!
-- Timus --, שונה לפני 10 שנים at 15:44 23/08/13
Created 10 שנים ago at 15:44 23/08/13
MCTPM ftw!
פרסומים: 47 תאריך הצטרפות: 17/05/10 פרסומים אחרוניםMatthew, שונה לפני 10 שנים at 16:23 23/08/13
Created 10 שנים ago at 16:23 23/08/13
RE: MCTPM ftw!
פרסומים: 119 תאריך הצטרפות: 30/01/13 פרסומים אחרונים
"But the really cool thing with nirodha, is that when the yogi comes out of it, she or he is super-enlightened. And after this point there is really nothing much left to do for the arhat than to die and enter Nirvana or, in our time and age, open a Skype account and start an online enlightenment service.
Understandably, nirodha has been sort of like the Holy Grail for hardcore meditators and Buddhist geeks for centuries. Thousands and thousands of people have spent millions of hours on their cushions trying to attain this noble stage, but very, very few actually make it there. Despite proof that accomplished meditators actually can get close to a state of more or less permanent brain death), there are also some scholarly types arguing that there is no such thing as nirodha-samapati at all. Generally speaking, the spiritual jury has been out on this issue for a very long time.
Until now."
Amazing.
Understandably, nirodha has been sort of like the Holy Grail for hardcore meditators and Buddhist geeks for centuries. Thousands and thousands of people have spent millions of hours on their cushions trying to attain this noble stage, but very, very few actually make it there. Despite proof that accomplished meditators actually can get close to a state of more or less permanent brain death), there are also some scholarly types arguing that there is no such thing as nirodha-samapati at all. Generally speaking, the spiritual jury has been out on this issue for a very long time.
Until now."
Amazing.
Fitter Stoke, שונה לפני 10 שנים at 17:28 23/08/13
Created 10 שנים ago at 17:28 23/08/13
RE: MCTPM ftw!
פרסומים: 487 תאריך הצטרפות: 23/01/12 פרסומים אחרונים
Oh my god, some of this is really funny...
http://tuttejiorg.wordpress.com/integral-body-mind-market-practice/
http://tuttejiorg.wordpress.com/integral-body-mind-market-practice/
Fitter Stoke, שונה לפני 10 שנים at 17:41 23/08/13
Created 10 שנים ago at 17:41 23/08/13
RE: MCTPM ftw!
פרסומים: 487 תאריך הצטרפות: 23/01/12 פרסומים אחרוניםRichard Zen, שונה לפני 10 שנים at 23:37 23/08/13
Created 10 שנים ago at 23:37 23/08/13
RE: MCTPM ftw!
פרסומים: 1665 תאריך הצטרפות: 18/05/10 פרסומים אחרוניםSweet Nothing, שונה לפני 10 שנים at 04:36 24/08/13
Created 10 שנים ago at 04:36 24/08/13
RE: MCTPM ftw!
פרסומים: 164 תאריך הצטרפות: 21/04/13 פרסומים אחרוניםKrissy Trede, שונה לפני 10 שנים at 00:38 25/08/13
Created 10 שנים ago at 00:38 25/08/13
RE: MCTPM ftw!
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"It doesn’t matter if you’re a saffron robed ascetic or a white shark on Wall Street."
Priceless.
Priceless.
Daniel M Ingram, שונה לפני 10 שנים at 05:53 25/08/13
Created 10 שנים ago at 05:53 25/08/13
RE: MCTPM ftw!
פרסומים: 3271 תאריך הצטרפות: 20/04/09 פרסומים אחרוניםHermetically Sealed, שונה לפני 10 שנים at 21:42 25/08/13
Created 10 שנים ago at 21:06 25/08/13
RE: MCTPM ftw!
פרסומים: 113 תאריך הצטרפות: 27/06/13 פרסומים אחרוניםTom Tom, שונה לפני 10 שנים at 22:15 25/08/13
Created 10 שנים ago at 22:07 25/08/13
RE: MCTPM ftw!
פרסומים: 466 תאריך הצטרפות: 19/09/09 פרסומים אחרונים
MDMA is very similar to 1-3 pure samatha jhanas. I haven't practiced these in a while (a few years or so), but I remember the jhanas being quite a bit stronger than a hit of molly (pure mdma) I took once as well as a hit of Ecstasy I took on a previous occasion. I was able to put the bliss off the scale with the jhanas, not as much bliss with the E or molly.
Hermetically Sealed, שונה לפני 10 שנים at 12:57 26/08/13
Created 10 שנים ago at 23:17 25/08/13
RE: MCTPM ftw!
פרסומים: 113 תאריך הצטרפות: 27/06/13 פרסומים אחרוניםTom Tom:
MDMA is very similar to 1-3 pure samatha jhanas. I haven't practiced these in a while (a few years or so), but I remember the jhanas being quite a bit stronger than a hit of molly (pure mdma) I took once as well as a hit of Ecstasy I took on a previous occasion. I was able to put the bliss off the scale with the jhanas, not as much bliss with the E or molly.
agreed. MDMA at least to me feels more like the "afterglow" of jhanas or the afterglow of certain insight attainments.
I would feel comfortable giving someone a tab of MDMA and telling them "this is why you should take meditation seriously, because you'll be able to summon up this flavor of bliss and clarity". I don't think any other drug could be used to make such a claim. That said.. I haven't taken it in at least 10 years and probably won't ever take it again.
Bruno Loff, שונה לפני 10 שנים at 04:46 26/08/13
Created 10 שנים ago at 04:45 26/08/13
RE: MCTPM ftw!
פרסומים: 1094 תאריך הצטרפות: 30/08/09 פרסומים אחרונים
Funnily enough, one of the reasons I still meditate is to try and bring to my daily life a dose of a specific perspective I've had on LSD, and still occasionally get when looking at nature. Although LSD did have unpredictable effects, and other perspectives which I am not so keen on, that specific way of seeing came up on every trip I took (which was five or six times).