Btw, about 1 hour and 11 minutes into the KF batgap interview, Kenneth references "one of the most awake people he knows of", using this person as an example of an enlightened person who doesn't enter/need altered states of consciousness. It sounded like it was someone who is still alive. Does anyone know who this is??
Here's his facebook: https://www.facebook.com/stuart.perrin.31?ref=br_rs&fref=browse_search . Some quotes from his facebook:
On my first visit to Coffee Creek Prison in Wilsonville, OR, I asked the
dozen or so inmates who attended the meditation class if they knew
anyone alive who didn't live in some kind of prison. It could be an
economic prison, racial prison, political prison, family prison,
emotional prison, sexual prison or religious prison - some approach to
life that locks people up. The worst prison of all is a righteous one:
the thought that my way is the only way;
my salvation is your salvation; either you follow my path or be lost
forever in some kind of unruly forest. There was a look of relief on
the faces of the inmates, a sense of possibility when I told them that
the only real freedom exists inside one’s self.
Another quote:
Years of inner work and meditation practice have taught me that I know
little or nothing about life. At first this frightened me: after so
great an effort to now come up empty. I soon realized the value of
knowing nothing: the entire world was at my fingertips. I could embrace
life without having to defend my knowledge; I could sit in front of
life and allow it to be my teacher; and best of all, I no longer had to
weigh my own importance when I interacted with
other people. What a relief! It became fun to be wrong. I stopped
being afraid to let life teach me what to do. Without a position to
defend, wisdom and knowledge were kind to me.
-Eva
