Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment - Discussion
Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
Art, שונה לפני 8 שנים at 22:10 26/03/16
Created 8 שנים ago at 22:10 26/03/16
Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
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Hello, this is my first post on the forum
I remember seeing some writing, post or blog or something, by Kenneth Folk, where he described different stages of awakening, like 7 or 8 of them. I can't seem to find it anymore, I'd appreciate if someone could be able to link it to me.
I remember seeing some writing, post or blog or something, by Kenneth Folk, where he described different stages of awakening, like 7 or 8 of them. I can't seem to find it anymore, I'd appreciate if someone could be able to link it to me.
Dream Walker, שונה לפני 8 שנים at 22:27 26/03/16
Created 8 שנים ago at 22:27 26/03/16
RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
פרסומים: 1729 תאריך הצטרפות: 18/01/12 פרסומים אחרוניםArt:
Hello, this is my first post on the forum
I remember seeing some writing, post or blog or something, by Kenneth Folk, where he described different stages of awakening, like 7 or 8 of them. I can't seem to find it anymore, I'd appreciate if someone could be able to link it to me.
I remember seeing some writing, post or blog or something, by Kenneth Folk, where he described different stages of awakening, like 7 or 8 of them. I can't seem to find it anymore, I'd appreciate if someone could be able to link it to me.
There you go
~D
Art, שונה לפני 8 שנים at 06:45 27/03/16
Created 8 שנים ago at 06:45 27/03/16
RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
פרסומים: 5 תאריך הצטרפות: 26/03/16 פרסומים אחרוניםneko, שונה לפני 8 שנים at 08:31 27/03/16
Created 8 שנים ago at 08:30 27/03/16
RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
פרסומים: 763 תאריך הצטרפות: 26/11/14 פרסומים אחרוניםDream Walker:
There you go
~D
The additional stages look a bit... relative to me. Is anyone else using this map or finding it useful?
Chris M, שונה לפני 8 שנים at 10:15 27/03/16
Created 8 שנים ago at 10:15 27/03/16
RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
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That map has been abandoned by Kenneth as far as I know. It didn't last long and did not survive his own further investigations.
Noah, שונה לפני 8 שנים at 13:41 27/03/16
Created 8 שנים ago at 13:41 27/03/16
RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
פרסומים: 1467 תאריך הצטרפות: 06/07/13 פרסומים אחרוניםChris M, שונה לפני 8 שנים at 15:09 27/03/16
Created 8 שנים ago at 15:09 27/03/16
RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
פרסומים: 5232 תאריך הצטרפות: 26/01/13 פרסומים אחרונים
Show me a model and I'll be able to find someone who can describe their practice experience that way, even if the model creator has moved on
Noah, שונה לפני 8 שנים at 15:12 27/03/16
Created 8 שנים ago at 15:12 27/03/16
RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
פרסומים: 1467 תאריך הצטרפות: 06/07/13 פרסומים אחרוניםChris Marti:
Show me a model and I'll be able to find someone who can describe their practice experience that way, even if the model creator has moved on
Touche.
Dream Walker, שונה לפני 8 שנים at 21:49 27/03/16
Created 8 שנים ago at 21:49 27/03/16
RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
פרסומים: 1729 תאריך הצטרפות: 18/01/12 פרסומים אחרוניםChris Marti:
That map has been abandoned by Kenneth as far as I know. It didn't last long and did not survive his own further investigations.
People who abandon their maps annoy me. Especially without explaining why and what further investigations led them to that point.
Having acknowledged they were wrong (by abandonment) what makes them think that their current decision is less wrong? Wrong maps at least might help you see what went wrong, or contain some good stuff.
It makes it more difficult for those who follow maps, and I do love me my maps.
If I ever stop mapping, slap me.
~D
Noah, שונה לפני 8 שנים at 00:03 28/03/16
Created 8 שנים ago at 00:03 28/03/16
RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
פרסומים: 1467 תאריך הצטרפות: 06/07/13 פרסומים אחרונים
@DreamWalker:
I think a big part of the issue is the question of whether or not a change was permanent. In Kenneth's case, it seems that what was permanent was the knowledge gained about the relativity of all experiences. It becomes interesting when this type of approach is compared with others, such as those in which people do reach permanent peaks. I think both of us can agree that technical 4th path is only an optional end point, and the stance that all experiences are relative is only one possible spirituality. Other "free agents" seem to be discovering stabillized aspects of awareness. And on it goes...
I think a big part of the issue is the question of whether or not a change was permanent. In Kenneth's case, it seems that what was permanent was the knowledge gained about the relativity of all experiences. It becomes interesting when this type of approach is compared with others, such as those in which people do reach permanent peaks. I think both of us can agree that technical 4th path is only an optional end point, and the stance that all experiences are relative is only one possible spirituality. Other "free agents" seem to be discovering stabillized aspects of awareness. And on it goes...
neko, שונה לפני 8 שנים at 04:06 28/03/16
Created 8 שנים ago at 04:06 28/03/16
RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
פרסומים: 763 תאריך הצטרפות: 26/11/14 פרסומים אחרוניםChris Marti:
Show me a model and I'll be able to find someone who can describe their practice experience that way, even if the model creator has moved on
That makes me want to make prank-maps
Art, שונה לפני 8 שנים at 05:26 28/03/16
Created 8 שנים ago at 05:25 28/03/16
RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
פרסומים: 5 תאריך הצטרפות: 26/03/16 פרסומים אחרוניםneko:
That makes me want to make prank-maps
Stage 11: Meditator begins to hallucinate little green men and feels the need to speak about them. In fact, if the meditator does not let everyone around him know he is seeing these men, he is not considered to be o stage 11.
Chris M, שונה לפני 8 שנים at 08:59 28/03/16
Created 8 שנים ago at 08:58 28/03/16
RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
פרסומים: 5232 תאריך הצטרפות: 26/01/13 פרסומים אחרוניםArt, שונה לפני 8 שנים at 09:18 28/03/16
Created 8 שנים ago at 09:18 28/03/16
RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
פרסומים: 5 תאריך הצטרפות: 26/03/16 פרסומים אחרוניםChris Marti:
That makes me want to make prank-maps
Thought of in a certain way all maps are prank maps.
Psi, שונה לפני 8 שנים at 11:34 28/03/16
Created 8 שנים ago at 11:34 28/03/16
RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
פרסומים: 1099 תאריך הצטרפות: 22/11/13 פרסומים אחרוניםArt:
Chris Marti:
That makes me want to make prank-maps
Thought of in a certain way all maps are prank maps.
Scott Kinney, שונה לפני 8 שנים at 13:20 28/03/16
Created 8 שנים ago at 13:20 28/03/16
RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
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New Englanders (in the US) have turned this into a high folk-art with the classic map-navigation advice "You can't get there from here."
neko, שונה לפני 8 שנים at 15:21 28/03/16
Created 8 שנים ago at 15:21 28/03/16
RE: Kenneth Folk's stages of enlightenment
פרסומים: 763 תאריך הצטרפות: 26/11/14 פרסומים אחרוניםChris Marti:
That makes me want to make prank-maps
Thought of in a certain way all maps are prank maps.
Obligatory Tom Stoppard quote