The Eyes - Discussion
The Eyes
The Eyes | David Charles Greeson | 05/11/08 02:57 |
RE: The Eyes | Martin Mai | 05/11/08 07:07 |
RE: The Eyes | David Charles Greeson | 06/11/08 01:49 |
David Charles Greeson, modificado 15 Anos atrás at 05/11/08 02:57
Created 15 Anos ago at 05/11/08 02:57
The Eyes
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Could someone please explain the Dhamma Eye, and the Wisdom Eye to me in terms of what the experience of them is like rather than as aspects of the developmental map?
Could someone please explain the Dhamma Eye, and the Wisdom Eye to me in terms of what the experience of them is like rather than as aspects of the developmental map?
Martin Mai, modificado 15 Anos atrás at 05/11/08 07:07
Created 15 Anos ago at 05/11/08 07:07
RE: The Eyes
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Hi haquan,
I am certainly noone to speak out of personal experience but I heard Tina Rasmussen and Stephen Snyder explain the Wisdom Eye in terms of Jhana practice. As far as I understood it is the ability to check the Jhana factors in the bhavanga and it can be achieved from first Jhana on. You might want to check the podcasts out, they are absolutely awesome samadhi-advice (http://www.paauk.org/files/jhanapracticegroup.html). I cannot remember which one it is but you´ll find it. I think the Wisdom Eye is also one of the psychic powers.
The Dhamma Eye is related to insight I think. It is mentioned in Daniel´s book, too but I don´t know where exactly.
Hope this helped a bit,
Martin
I am certainly noone to speak out of personal experience but I heard Tina Rasmussen and Stephen Snyder explain the Wisdom Eye in terms of Jhana practice. As far as I understood it is the ability to check the Jhana factors in the bhavanga and it can be achieved from first Jhana on. You might want to check the podcasts out, they are absolutely awesome samadhi-advice (http://www.paauk.org/files/jhanapracticegroup.html). I cannot remember which one it is but you´ll find it. I think the Wisdom Eye is also one of the psychic powers.
The Dhamma Eye is related to insight I think. It is mentioned in Daniel´s book, too but I don´t know where exactly.
Hope this helped a bit,
Martin
David Charles Greeson, modificado 15 Anos atrás at 06/11/08 01:49
Created 15 Anos ago at 06/11/08 01:49
RE: The Eyes
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Thank you, Martin! I most certainly will check those podcasts out.
What I remember from Daniel's book is that the Dhamma Eye opens at Stream Entry. I think you are correct about the Dhamma Eye in terms of what it does. In Daniel's description, I believe that the Wisdom Eye can open at times as an Anagami, but will open and stay open once one becomes an Arahant - and I also remember that sometimes with Arahants the Wisdom Eye closes again, and those are considered "lesser Arahants." All I remember about the description of it is that it conferred the ability to "see things as they really are." Perhaps this is a different "wisdom eye" they are describing?
What I remember from Daniel's book is that the Dhamma Eye opens at Stream Entry. I think you are correct about the Dhamma Eye in terms of what it does. In Daniel's description, I believe that the Wisdom Eye can open at times as an Anagami, but will open and stay open once one becomes an Arahant - and I also remember that sometimes with Arahants the Wisdom Eye closes again, and those are considered "lesser Arahants." All I remember about the description of it is that it conferred the ability to "see things as they really are." Perhaps this is a different "wisdom eye" they are describing?