Wilber-Horn Matrix? - Discussion
Wilber-Horn Matrix?
shargrol,修改在1 年前。 at 22-6-15 上午6:59
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Wilber-Horn Matrix?
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Anybody have a link or a description or a graphic or the actual matrix of the Wilber-Horn Matrix?
This Buddhist Geeks email/advertisement provoked my curiousity (underlining is mine):
Waking up and growing up in a world in crisisJune 12 - September 13, 2022This training is a deepening of the foundation cultivated in our introductory Integral Dharma Training. Our focus for Advanced Integral Dharma is integrating Waking Up and Growing Up into a single practice and experience, combining states of consciousness and stages of development through The Phases of Insight and Ken Wilber’s model of ego development (first created by Vince Fakhoury Horn as the ‘Wilber-Horn Matrix’). We will inhabit these states and stages experientially through Social Meditation, particularly the form of Zen Noting. What we discover through these practices and exploration will be done in the context of being of benefit in an increasingly complex world in crisis.
(which links to this webpage: https://www.buddhistgeeks.training/advanced-integral-dharma/)
This Buddhist Geeks email/advertisement provoked my curiousity (underlining is mine):
Waking up and growing up in a world in crisisJune 12 - September 13, 2022This training is a deepening of the foundation cultivated in our introductory Integral Dharma Training. Our focus for Advanced Integral Dharma is integrating Waking Up and Growing Up into a single practice and experience, combining states of consciousness and stages of development through The Phases of Insight and Ken Wilber’s model of ego development (first created by Vince Fakhoury Horn as the ‘Wilber-Horn Matrix’). We will inhabit these states and stages experientially through Social Meditation, particularly the form of Zen Noting. What we discover through these practices and exploration will be done in the context of being of benefit in an increasingly complex world in crisis.
(which links to this webpage: https://www.buddhistgeeks.training/advanced-integral-dharma/)
genaro,修改在1 年前。 at 22-6-15 上午8:46
Created 1 年 ago at 22-6-15 上午8:46
RE: Wilber-Horn Matrix?
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from a search engine
https://www.paulhelfrich.com/library/Helfrich_P_The_Five_Phases_of_Wilber.pdf
page 35 figure 6 maybe, but there's plenty of other graphics
I always thought the matrix (the film) was like being trapped in a ken wilbur nightmare, internet search confirms this!
this also popped up :
https://www.reddit.com/r/streamentry/comments/aw0vk3/theory_should_i_care_who_ken_wilber_is_and_why/
but of course, Shargol, you are too strong to be fooled by this waffle, no?
https://www.paulhelfrich.com/library/Helfrich_P_The_Five_Phases_of_Wilber.pdf
page 35 figure 6 maybe, but there's plenty of other graphics
I always thought the matrix (the film) was like being trapped in a ken wilbur nightmare, internet search confirms this!
this also popped up :
https://www.reddit.com/r/streamentry/comments/aw0vk3/theory_should_i_care_who_ken_wilber_is_and_why/
but of course, Shargol, you are too strong to be fooled by this waffle, no?
Chris M,修改在1 年前。 at 22-6-15 上午8:50
Created 1 年 ago at 22-6-15 上午8:50
RE: Wilber-Horn Matrix?
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Created 1 年 ago at 22-6-15 上午9:20
RE: Wilber-Horn Matrix?
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but of course, Shargol, you are too strong to be fooled by this waffle, no?
but of course, Shargol, you are too strong to be fooled by this waffle, no?
As Wilber once said, "no one is smart enough to be wrong all the time" -- which I also apply to Wilber's ideas
(and I do my best to apply it to shargrol's ideas, too! )
shargrol,修改在1 年前。 at 22-6-15 下午5:57
Created 1 年 ago at 22-6-15 下午5:57
RE: Wilber-Horn Matrix?
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If I were interested in that matrix I think I'd probably email Vince Horn.
If I were interested in that matrix I think I'd probably email Vince Horn.
I am not worthy of emailing Vince Horn.
Chris M,修改在1 年前。 at 22-6-15 下午7:08
Created 1 年 ago at 22-6-15 下午7:08
RE: Wilber-Horn Matrix?
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Created 1 年 ago at 22-6-30 下午4:59
RE: Wilber-Horn Matrix?
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Chris M If I were interested in that matrix I think I'd probably email Vince Horn.
Chris M,修改在1 年前。 at 22-6-30 下午5:08
Created 1 年 ago at 22-6-30 下午5:03
RE: Wilber-Horn Matrix?
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Yeah, wake up!
EDIT and FYI - I just emailed Vince Horn about this. He's in Europe on a vacation but I think he'll get back to me at some point.
EDIT and FYI - I just emailed Vince Horn about this. He's in Europe on a vacation but I think he'll get back to me at some point.
shargrol,修改在1 年前。 at 22-6-30 下午7:48
Created 1 年 ago at 22-6-30 下午7:48
RE: Wilber-Horn Matrix?
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Created 1 年 ago at 22-7-1 上午12:02
RE: Wilber-Horn Matrix?
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Why not write a book? Though the title seems taken, perhaps try something like Life is real only then when i am not?<br />Sorry for the bluntness anyways.
shargrol,修改在1 年前。 at 22-7-1 上午5:36
Created 1 年 ago at 22-7-1 上午5:36
RE: Wilber-Horn Matrix?
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Created 1 年 ago at 22-7-1 上午7:53
RE: Wilber-Horn Matrix?
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Hello Sir.
I vaguely remember reading a comment of yours where you mentioned that you were working on a practice focused book.
Since then I have been keeping an eye out to see if you have made any progress or have already published.
Please know that I am (and others are too) eagerly waiting for your book.
Lots of stuff that I look forward to stealing .
I vaguely remember reading a comment of yours where you mentioned that you were working on a practice focused book.
Since then I have been keeping an eye out to see if you have made any progress or have already published.
Please know that I am (and others are too) eagerly waiting for your book.
Lots of stuff that I look forward to stealing .
Pepe ·,修改在1 年前。 at 22-7-1 上午8:10
Created 1 年 ago at 22-7-1 上午8:10
RE: Wilber-Horn Matrix?
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Created 1 年 ago at 22-8-4 上午1:55
RE: Wilber-Horn Matrix?
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Sure, good luck with writing! Would happily read your book.
They say you need also sitting muscles to write, but as you obviously already have some experience with sitting, what else could you need besides those and the oh so unreliable luck?
They say you need also sitting muscles to write, but as you obviously already have some experience with sitting, what else could you need besides those and the oh so unreliable luck?