Manual of Insight book - help with practical instructions

Bob Roberts,修改在1 年前。 at 22-10-29 上午4:18
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Manual of Insight book - help with practical instructions

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Hi there,

In the chapter on practical instructions, there is a section on distracting thoughts. When you find yourself thinking, the guidance is to note it as "thinking, thinking" etc.

I might have missed something but dont understand the significance (if any) of double noting in this case (and in any other scenarios)?

​​​​​​​Many thanks
T DC,修改在1 年前。 at 22-10-30 上午12:01
Created 1 年 ago at 22-10-30 上午12:00

RE: Manual of Insight book - help with practical instructions

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I don't have the book, but it may be simply a convention based on how many distracting thoughts we normally have.  I.e. you would have a distracting thought and note thinking, have another thought and note thinking (again), etc.  There's no practical reason to actually note the same thought twice.  ;)
shargrol,修改在1 年前。 at 22-10-30 上午6:27
Created 1 年 ago at 22-10-30 上午6:27

RE: Manual of Insight book - help with practical instructions

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Yeah saying the word twice is optional, but it sort of conveys "oh, that's thinking, and it is just an experience of thinking". In other words, you're sort of noticing it and then confirming what you noticed. I found saying it twice, slowly, was helpful. "Thinking... thinking."
George S,修改在1 年前。 at 22-10-30 上午10:47
Created 1 年 ago at 22-10-30 上午10:47

RE: Manual of Insight book - help with practical instructions

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The point of noting distractions is a) to notice that you got distracted and b) to return to the primary object (the breath) as quickly as possible. So you should note each distraction as many times as is necessary for it to pass and your attention to return to the breath. The text makes this clear, e.g. 'A mental vision must be noted on each occurrence of its appearance until it passes away.' You should be aiming to get to a place where all sensations pass away as soon as they arise (A&P) ...
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Noah D,修改在1 年前。 at 22-10-30 下午2:37
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RE: Manual of Insight book - help with practical instructions

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It's just to be more thorough.
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Dream Walker,修改在1 年前。 at 22-11-4 上午12:15
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RE: Manual of Insight book - help with practical instructions

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The noting/labeling hack is used to stay on target and not wander off into lala land. The way it works is to keep up a tempo as sensations happen such that if the tempo stops you will notice that and get back to work noticing and then labeling. This hack is training wheels until you can just notice without wandering into stories. Use the hack as needed but use it well and then drop it if your in a spot where you dont need it
Good luck,
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