Not Looking for Enlightenment

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The Xzanth,修改在11 年前。 at 12-12-28 下午5:54
Created 11 年 ago at 12-12-28 下午5:54

Not Looking for Enlightenment

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I love to meditate and enjoy the transformation of my personality and habits that have resulted from the practice. While I used to crave and look forward to mystical experiences (mostly Out of Body Experiences) today I have very little interest for these or other special states. I only want to be more present to serve my fellows. I am concerned that if I continue to increase my practice I might again fall victim to what I perceive as imbalanced ecstatic states.

Anything I could do to keep it real (and grounded)? I certainly don't want to feel special... I would rather not think about myself at all. lol.
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The Xzanth,修改在11 年前。 at 12-12-28 下午6:36
Created 11 年 ago at 12-12-28 下午6:36

RE: Not Looking for Enlightenment

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Getting my own answers... nothing to do about it. Gotta tolerate the weird with the normal, the confusing with the simple and whatever (relatively mistaken) ideas of self I have left. Of course I am still open to reading about other perspectives to this issue.
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N A,修改在11 年前。 at 12-12-28 下午6:51
Created 11 年 ago at 12-12-28 下午6:51

RE: Not Looking for Enlightenment

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Well have you read MCTB?
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The Xzanth,修改在11 年前。 at 12-12-28 下午7:07
Created 11 年 ago at 12-12-28 下午7:07

RE: Not Looking for Enlightenment

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Nope. But give me a moment and I will rectify that. :-)
Change A,修改在11 年前。 at 12-12-28 下午9:10
Created 11 年 ago at 12-12-28 下午9:10

RE: Not Looking for Enlightenment

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Daniel Gravel:
Anything I could do to keep it real (and grounded)?


You should incorporate some physical practices with your sitting practice such as yoga or mindful stretching. Being grounded in the body will keep it real and grounded.
Jason ,修改在11 年前。 at 12-12-28 下午9:57
Created 11 年 ago at 12-12-28 下午9:57

RE: Not Looking for Enlightenment

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Daniel Gravel:
I love to meditate and enjoy the transformation of my personality and habits that have resulted from the practice. While I used to crave and look forward to mystical experiences (mostly Out of Body Experiences) today I have very little interest for these or other special states. I only want to be more present to serve my fellows. I am concerned that if I continue to increase my practice I might again fall victim to what I perceive as imbalanced ecstatic states.

Anything I could do to keep it real (and grounded)? I certainly don't want to feel special... I would rather not think about myself at all. lol.


Sometimes the side-effects of keeping it really real include transient "mystical" states, but enlightenment is not a state. The practice is to observe all states - pleasant, unpleasant, and bizarre - dispassionately. That leads to insight and transformation. Of course, there are a lot of ways to practice, but my guess is that if you're pursuing meditation seriously you're going to encounter different aspects of your mind no matter what. That's okay, as long as you see them for what they are (whatever that is). I think your wariness will keep you in good stead.
Frederick Meyer,修改在11 年前。 at 13-2-3 下午1:59
Created 11 年 ago at 13-2-3 下午1:59

RE: Not Looking for Enlightenment

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I think I agree with Some Guy. When I see videos of people I believe to be enlightened, they're not trippy and far-out--they're very grounded, very compassionate, and also joyful in a quiet way.

So I'd say your skepticism is great, but I'd add that if you do start feeling intense joy that also feels connected to truth, peace, and groundedness, please don't reject it as "not normal enough." That joy could be an expression of your sanity, rather than some trippy delusion.

Hope this helps, and best wishes to you!

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