Six words of advice - Tilopa

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Richard Zen,修改在9 年前。 at 14-10-13 下午11:58
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Six words of advice - Tilopa

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http://www.unfetteredmind.org/includes/sixwords.pdf

Another good Mahamudra list:
Don’t recall
(Let go of what has passed) 

Don’t imagine
(Let go of what may come)

Don’t think
(Let go of what is happening now)

Don’t examine
(Don’t try to figure anything out)
 
Don’t control
(Don’t try to make anything happen)

Rest
(Relax, right now, and rest)

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Not Tao,修改在9 年前。 at 14-10-14 上午1:44
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RE: Six words of advice - Tilopa

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This also sounds like the dzogchen "pointing out" - are they essentially the same thing?  I always liked these tibetian ideas.
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Richard Zen,修改在9 年前。 at 14-10-14 上午9:02
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RE: Six words of advice - Tilopa

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I think this looks more like instructions for Shikantaza since it looks for all the possible clingings that could be there and what to let go of. Of couse you wouldn't want to do this in daily life when you actually need to think, recall etc.
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Not Tao,修改在9 年前。 at 14-10-14 下午3:32
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This might be something to examine, but I don't think these pairs match up:

Don’t recall
(Let go of what has passed)

Don’t imagine
(Let go of what may come)

Don’t think
(Let go of what is happening now)

If you're letting go, does that really mean stopping various mental processes, or does it mean allowing them without inhibitions. The last one especially, I think letting go of what's happening can cause a lot of thoughts to "break loose" so to speak. I think I favor the bottom lines over the top. The top sounds like a lot of "doing," which goes against the very last line saying to rest.
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Richard Zen,修改在9 年前。 at 14-10-14 下午5:29
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Yeah the second lines are more detailed. Letting go is not repressing.
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(D Z) Dhru Val,修改在9 年前。 at 14-10-14 下午11:19
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RE: Six words of advice - Tilopa

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Song of Mahamudra - by Tilopa, its like these words but more comprehensive. always calms me down without fail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaZHrg_7EAA

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Richard Zen,修改在9 年前。 at 14-10-14 下午11:48
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Very relaxing.
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Bryan,修改在9 年前。 at 14-10-31 上午12:39
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RE: Six words of advice - Tilopa

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Tilopa's advice is Mahamudra. Very similar to Dzogchen practice. Also from Tilopa's Mahamudra Upadesha that you may also like:

"Your body has no core, hollow like bamboo.
 Your mind goes beyond thought, open like space.
 Let go of control and rest right there. "

and

"At first, practice is a river rushing through a gorge.
In the middle, it’s the river Ganges, smooth and flowing.
In the end, it's where all rivers meet, mother and child."

with metta, Bryan
Jeremy May,修改在9 年前。 at 14-10-31 下午9:04
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Recall 
(What has passed?) 

Imagine
(Oh what may come!)

Think 
(What is happening now?)

Examine 
(Try to figure Everything out)
 
control 
(Try to make Something happen)

Act
(Live.  Don't die before your time)
Jeremy May,修改在9 年前。 at 14-10-31 下午10:38
Created 9 年 ago at 14-10-31 下午10:38

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Not Tao has made me want to say it twice!

Recall 
(What has passed?) 

Imagine
(Oh what may come!)

Think 
(What is happening now?)

Examine 
(Try to figure Everything out)
 
control 
(Try to make Something happen)

Act
(Live.  Don't die before your time)
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Richard Zen,修改在9 年前。 at 14-11-22 上午9:40
Created 9 年 ago at 14-11-22 上午9:39

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJbUHgbn2e0

Tilopa's Mahamudra. Fun soundtrack! emoticon
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Richard Zen,修改在9 年前。 at 14-11-22 下午1:47
Created 9 年 ago at 14-11-22 下午1:47

RE: Six words of advice - Tilopa

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Paweł K:
Richard Zen:
Of couse you wouldn't want to do this in daily life when you actually need to think, recall etc.

you won't make it very far in this enlightenment business with attitude such as that <lol>
You what I mean? Doing math and blocking thoughts is not a good idea. emoticon
Dave sdfsdf,修改在9 年前。 at 14-11-22 下午5:23
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RE: Six words of advice - Tilopa

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About math. Though I've found that thinking dont solve problems for me. When I program it just comes to me. Designing stuff requires planning and structure but usually one thinks way to much. Thats why most software, websites and what not is really bloated and sucky. The voice in the head dont really help all that much. I only here it when I have write in english when writing in native its not needed. Its a little weird.

But I like the mahamudranstuff above. Though Im really clueless about what that is really.

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