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Enlightenment, it's just a glorified rubber hand, yeah ?

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In the rubber hand illusion the experimentee comes to feel that a rubber hand is part of themselves.

https://youtu.be/RaP0MqvkvUw


Why stop at hands, why not the mountains, the trees and the great sky above ?

RE: Enlightenment, it's just a glorified rubber hand, yeah ?
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11/20/18 5:26 AM as a reply to Stickman2.
Stickman2:
In the rubber hand illusion the experimentee comes to feel that a rubber hand is part of themselves.

https://youtu.be/RaP0MqvkvUw


Why stop at hands, why not the mountains, the trees and the great sky above ?

I kind of see what you're trying to get at, but don't agree. A lot of words have been said over thousands of years about what "enlightenment" is or isn't and there is plenty of disagreement, but probably no one who has actually experienced it would concur that "it's just a glorified rubber band." 

Are you interested in actually cultivating insight, Stickman2? I'm curious as to why you are here on this forum. You seem to be posting a lot of things that suggest you are trying to understand things intellectually, which isn't the way insight happens.

RE: Enlightenment, it's just a glorified rubber hand, yeah ?
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11/20/18 7:13 AM as a reply to Andromeda.
Andromeda:
Stickman2:
In the rubber hand illusion the experimentee comes to feel that a rubber hand is part of themselves.

https://youtu.be/RaP0MqvkvUw


Why stop at hands, why not the mountains, the trees and the great sky above ?

I kind of see what you're trying to get at, but don't agree. A lot of words have been said over thousands of years about what "enlightenment" is or isn't and there is plenty of disagreement, but probably no one who has actually experienced it would concur that "it's just a glorified rubber band."

Are you interested in actually cultivating insight, Stickman2? I'm curious as to why you are here on this forum. You seem to be posting a lot of things that suggest you are trying to understand things intellectually, which isn't the way insight happens.
Aye, well, I already cultivated some insight, and I didn't do it by just believing everything I read in spiritual books. Matter of fact it debunked some of it.
Discussion of rubber hands is a minority sport, I'd go that far. Nothing ventured, as they say!
Maybe it's to do with one of the stops on the way. How about that ?
It's a science forum so I ask about science.

RE: Enlightenment, it's just a glorified rubber hand, yeah ?
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11/20/18 7:22 AM as a reply to Stickman2.
What makes you say that this is a science forum?

RE: Enlightenment, it's just a glorified rubber hand, yeah ?
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11/20/18 7:29 AM as a reply to Andromeda.
Andromeda:
What makes you say that this is a science forum?


Cuz it sez "science and meditation" on the header.

RE: Enlightenment, it's just a glorified rubber hand, yeah ?
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11/20/18 8:23 AM as a reply to Stickman2.
Stickman2:
Andromeda:
What makes you say that this is a science forum?


Cuz it sez "science and meditation" on the header.
Ah yes, you did post in that subcategory. 

At any rate, best wishes for your practice.

RE: Enlightenment, it's just a glorified rubber hand, yeah ?
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11/21/18 11:23 AM as a reply to Stickman2.
Stickman2:
In the rubber hand illusion the experimentee comes to feel that a rubber hand is part of themselves.

https://youtu.be/RaP0MqvkvUw


Why stop at hands, why not the mountains, the trees and the great sky above ?

aloha stick,

   Makes sense to me, bra.

   Identification with less than everything is the problem. If you realize that identification with the body is not fixed and that it can be extended, why not extend it to the limits of the universe and beyond?

   Sounds like a plan. Or, the Way.


terry


from the tao te ching, trans feng:


Chapter 47.

Without going outside, you may know the whole world. 
Without looking through the window, you may see the ways of heaven. 
The farther you go, the less you know.

Thus the sage knows without traveling; 
He sees without looking; 
He works without doing.

RE: Enlightenment, it's just a glorified rubber hand, yeah ?
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11/22/18 12:37 PM as a reply to Stickman2.
Soooo...... I actually did the rubber hand trick last night, and I think it's a must for any contemplative. All you need is a cardboard box, a rubber glove and two paintbrushes and, viola!, watch your self boundary dissolve in 30 seconds.