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nada free teachings
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nada Meditation instructions:
Keep asking yourself the following question: "What is experienced before fabrication splits reality?" Experience it moment-by-moment.
By "Experiencing" I mean the direct, immediate, non-conceptual experience we all have (seeing, hearing..)
By "fabrication" I mean the transformation of this direct experience into mental constructs. This is what splits what was a unified field into "I" and "other".
Keep asking yourself the following question: "What is experienced before fabrication splits reality?" Experience it moment-by-moment.
By "Experiencing" I mean the direct, immediate, non-conceptual experience we all have (seeing, hearing..)
By "fabrication" I mean the transformation of this direct experience into mental constructs. This is what splits what was a unified field into "I" and "other".
Todo, modified 2 Years ago at 4/16/20 1:13 PM
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RE: nada free teachings
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We all have our own inner Dia-bolos "the 'he' who divides". Look at yours emerging moment-by-moment..
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The 3Cs revisited:
The three fundamental characteristics of reality seem to appear in a definite order. The first to appear is dukkha which appears immediately with the appearance of any sensation. The process by which sensations are made is laborious and hence inherently painful. Then appear 'no-self'. It seems to me that this sencond characteristic is better apprehended a 'self/noself split' rather than simply no-self. And finally appear impermanence. Impermanence is not what is experienced directly but it is the only logical conclusion in the face of the immediate vanishing of sensations. Thus what one should focus on is the 'vanishing' rather than trying to apprehend impermanence directly.
In conclusion a practical way to proceed is to look for the three characteristics in the given order of appearance: dukkha first then the self/noself split (it's really an event rather than a quality or an attribute) and finally impermanence imposes itself upon repeatedly seeing sensations vanishing as soon as they appear.
It is worth noting that a certain amount of dukkha accompanies the self/noself split and also the realization of impermanence. Thus dukkha appears to permeate everything but it is still the first to appear and it is best apprehended then.
The three fundamental characteristics of reality seem to appear in a definite order. The first to appear is dukkha which appears immediately with the appearance of any sensation. The process by which sensations are made is laborious and hence inherently painful. Then appear 'no-self'. It seems to me that this sencond characteristic is better apprehended a 'self/noself split' rather than simply no-self. And finally appear impermanence. Impermanence is not what is experienced directly but it is the only logical conclusion in the face of the immediate vanishing of sensations. Thus what one should focus on is the 'vanishing' rather than trying to apprehend impermanence directly.
In conclusion a practical way to proceed is to look for the three characteristics in the given order of appearance: dukkha first then the self/noself split (it's really an event rather than a quality or an attribute) and finally impermanence imposes itself upon repeatedly seeing sensations vanishing as soon as they appear.
It is worth noting that a certain amount of dukkha accompanies the self/noself split and also the realization of impermanence. Thus dukkha appears to permeate everything but it is still the first to appear and it is best apprehended then.
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RE: nada free teachings
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Hmmm:
“I may venture to affirm of the rest of mankind, that they are nothing but a bundle or collection of different perceptions, which succeed each other with an inconceivable rapidity, and are in a perceptual flux and movement.”
D. Not for Daniel (Ingram) but for David (Hume).
“I may venture to affirm of the rest of mankind, that they are nothing but a bundle or collection of different perceptions, which succeed each other with an inconceivable rapidity, and are in a perceptual flux and movement.”
D. Not for Daniel (Ingram) but for David (Hume).
A Dietrich Ringle, modified 2 Years ago at 5/1/20 4:39 PM
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I think you could be off here. There is no experience that all share deep down or whatever. If there were, we would all experience the three chaxreristixs in the same order. As it stands, everyone has a unique flavor they can cherish. Taste and see that the Lord is good.
A Dietrich Ringle, modified 2 Years ago at 5/1/20 4:46 PM
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Then again, I didn't react so forcibly when someone told me I will relive the same life over and over again.
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The hard kernel of the core teachings:
Three characteristics:
Achtung...
Arising.. selfing.. suffering.. vanishing.. Repeat..
Impersonal, Interdependent Being-ness Unfolding...
Three tools:
Concentration: keeping focus on the chosen object.
Clarity: detect faint signal & discriminate fine details.
Equanimity: A gentle attitude of matter-of-factness.
Three characteristics:
Achtung...
Arising.. selfing.. suffering.. vanishing.. Repeat..
Impersonal, Interdependent Being-ness Unfolding...
Three tools:
Concentration: keeping focus on the chosen object.
Clarity: detect faint signal & discriminate fine details.
Equanimity: A gentle attitude of matter-of-factness.
terry, modified 2 Years ago at 5/19/20 11:46 AM
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RE: nada free teachings
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nada Meditation instructions:
Keep asking yourself the following question: "What is experienced before fabrication splits reality?" Experience it moment-by-moment.
By "Experiencing" I mean the direct, immediate, non-conceptual experience we all have (seeing, hearing..)
By "fabrication" I mean the transformation of this direct experience into mental constructs. This is what splits what was a unified field into "I" and "other".
Keep asking yourself the following question: "What is experienced before fabrication splits reality?" Experience it moment-by-moment.
By "Experiencing" I mean the direct, immediate, non-conceptual experience we all have (seeing, hearing..)
By "fabrication" I mean the transformation of this direct experience into mental constructs. This is what splits what was a unified field into "I" and "other".
aloha todo,
"Direct, immediate, non-conceptual experience" neithers remembers nor projects.
Mental constructions are just another "direct, immediate, non-conceptual experience."
'What splits what was a unified field into "I" and "other"' is only a mental construct and does not actually split any unified field into any such entities. A buddha sees mental constructs as mental constructs.
These things are easier to see if you dwell in solitude a great deal and talk seldom. One opens one's mouth and is lost.
terry