Can prayer change my mind? - Discussion
Brian:
Thich Nhat Hanh said something like "in Buddhism we do not believe in salvation by grace. We believe in salvation by insight." Do you have the ability to generate feelings of lovingkindness?
BTW. To fix mind configuration by generating feelings it would be more efficient to query memory and find what normally functioning mind felt like, extract essence of it and generate it. Mind would then naturally follow it trying to match it.
In the middle of worst Dark Night and without much experience in influencing mind with mind state visualization I would assume it would be somewhat tricky to pull off =P
Great advice here. It's also helpful and normalizing to know that what you're going through is not uncommon for those who journey the spiritual path. I went through this, many people on this forum have gone through this, and thousands more people throughout history have. It's also worthwhile to remember the first noble truth: The cause of dukkha is craving; craving for things to be and craving for things to not be. Your suffering during this process is proportional to the craving/resistance you present. So a little acceptance will help lessen your suffering, and if you can't accept things, accept your inability to accept things. 
yes you do.
the more space, the more choice.
go to the woods or to a field or to the sea. breathe some fresh air. watch the clouds. get off the computer.
it'll help
the more space, the more choice.
go to the woods or to a field or to the sea. breathe some fresh air. watch the clouds. get off the computer.
it'll help
Thanks
I think it will be a miracle if I am able to let go even a small amount . It torments me that I don't have control over not having control. I feel like I'm telling myself not to think about purple elephants, every moment I have an obsessive loop saying "we need out we need awakening and love" it's uhhhhh not great... it would be ideal if I could just be content
I think it will be a miracle if I am able to let go even a small amount . It torments me that I don't have control over not having control. I feel like I'm telling myself not to think about purple elephants, every moment I have an obsessive loop saying "we need out we need awakening and love" it's uhhhhh not great... it would be ideal if I could just be content
es pro:
Thanks
I think it will be a miracle if I am able to let go even a small amount . It torments me that I don't have control over not having control. I feel like I'm telling myself not to think about purple elephants, every moment I have an obsessive loop saying "we need out we need awakening and love" it's uhhhhh not great... it would be ideal if I could just be content
I think it will be a miracle if I am able to let go even a small amount . It torments me that I don't have control over not having control. I feel like I'm telling myself not to think about purple elephants, every moment I have an obsessive loop saying "we need out we need awakening and love" it's uhhhhh not great... it would be ideal if I could just be content
Just not too much like they have in medications that give people reasons to go to ER.
Pinch of normal lithium salt does the trick and is less toxic than cup of coffee.
How you doing?
Just so you know, we all love you
Just so you know, we all love you
es pro:
Aw thanks for checking in. I'm doing....waiting
It's silly to talk with certainty, but I am sure you'll be fine
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es pro:
Ok thanks. Really don't know if I CAN WORK myself out of it I mean anything is possible but each day I wake up and things are worse and I feel more empty inside and disconnected from myself/body/others etc etc. What work am I. Supposed to do?
Why does this bothers you?
Perhaps you think that if you liked it it would persist and you would stay disconnected like that.
It does not work like that. There is zero valid reasons to suffer, especially because of brain that is merely reconfiguring itself.
Each experience stream creates various experience streams with different presentations. What is pain is always also bliss, even ecstasy. All the nice and pleasurable things you experienced in your life could be experienced as pain and make you suffer just as much as all the suffering that you experience now you could experience as pleasure. Different representations are not different experiences, it is the same experience.
Then again, mind which cling to idea of liberation from suffering does not have time to look around for different version of what it experiences...
Anyway, I will try to rephrase this same thing again and again. This is essence of enlightenment... at least Theravada (no it does not have anything to do with sense of self or ego, even if better representation of sense of self is somewhere else than we typically use), as in Mahayana the realization is "only helping others can make you happy". So help yourself and stop your senseless suffering. And no "but"s, just experience pleasure whatever your mind tells you if there is a reason for things to be experienced as pain or pleasure or whatever else. Do not listen to your mind. Once you experience the bliss mind will follow and change its mind about what is happening to you.
If surrender does not work then maybe you should pick some weapons and go to war?
Cannot get hurt more when fighting than when trying to surrender to evil. Also demons tend to like people who resist and tend to usually leave them alone and after some fighting want to become their friends and are then more willing to change to become better themselves because they just like power and if good can be poweful then they will be good. Nothing is irritating demons more than the idea of "surreder". What the frack... it even trigger my nerve and I am not even a demon...
Do open heart if that is what you want. Keep nukes ready, just in case
Cannot get hurt more when fighting than when trying to surrender to evil. Also demons tend to like people who resist and tend to usually leave them alone and after some fighting want to become their friends and are then more willing to change to become better themselves because they just like power and if good can be poweful then they will be good. Nothing is irritating demons more than the idea of "surreder". What the frack... it even trigger my nerve and I am not even a demon...
Do open heart if that is what you want. Keep nukes ready, just in case
Ni Nurta:
If surrender does not work then maybe you should pick some weapons and go to war?
Cannot get hurt more when fighting than when trying to surrender to evil. Also demons tend to like people who resist and tend to usually leave them alone and after some fighting want to become their friends and are then more willing to change to become better themselves because they just like power and if good can be poweful then they will be good. Nothing is irritating demons more than the idea of "surreder". What the frack... it even trigger my nerve and I am not even a demon...
Do open heart if that is what you want. Keep nukes ready, just in case
Cannot get hurt more when fighting than when trying to surrender to evil. Also demons tend to like people who resist and tend to usually leave them alone and after some fighting want to become their friends and are then more willing to change to become better themselves because they just like power and if good can be poweful then they will be good. Nothing is irritating demons more than the idea of "surreder". What the frack... it even trigger my nerve and I am not even a demon...
Do open heart if that is what you want. Keep nukes ready, just in case
Which ass should we kick?! Go team!
Ready to kick it, in any case, lol.
"Dear God, just tell me which ass to kick, and Thy will be done, and not I, but Christ in me will kick that ass thoroughly. Amen."
love, tim
Tim Farrington:
"Dear God, just tell me which ass to kick, and Thy will be done, and not I, but Christ in me will kick that ass thoroughly. Amen."
Ni Nurta:
Tim Farrington:
"Dear God, just tell me which ass to kick, and Thy will be done, and not I, but Christ in me will kick that ass thoroughly. Amen."
Henry Arthur Adams:
Ni Nurta:
Tim Farrington:
"Dear God, just tell me which ass to kick, and Thy will be done, and not I, but Christ in me will kick that ass thoroughly. Amen."
ni, too late for me, lol, i'm all in on the so-called "God."
and i pray to that Divine Motherfucker that S/He bring es pro through to her dawn soon. in a transient, suffering, no-self fashion, per the three characteristics, of course.
Tim Farrington:
ni, too late for me, lol, i'm all in on the so-called "God."
and i pray to that Divine Motherfucker that S/He bring es pro through to her dawn soon. in a transient, suffering, no-self fashion, per the three characteristics, of course.
and i pray to that Divine Motherfucker that S/He bring es pro through to her dawn soon. in a transient, suffering, no-self fashion, per the three characteristics, of course.
It is never too late to find the real one inside yourself. Then praying to this Christian God, or however it is called, will be a bit more meaningful.
True Christian is not merely taking from God but is also actively giving to it. Otherwise how is Jesus Christ is supposed to be able take a needed break? My understanding is that this visualization is a shared effort
Ni Nurta:
Tim Farrington:
ni, too late for me, lol, i'm all in on the so-called "God."
and i pray to that Divine Motherfucker that S/He bring es pro through to her dawn soon. in a transient, suffering, no-self fashion, per the three characteristics, of course.
and i pray to that Divine Motherfucker that S/He bring es pro through to her dawn soon. in a transient, suffering, no-self fashion, per the three characteristics, of course.
It is never too late to find the real one inside yourself. Then praying to this Christian God, or however it is called, will be a bit more meaningful.
True Christian is not merely taking from God but is also actively giving to it. Otherwise how is Jesus Christ is supposed to be able take a needed break? My understanding is that this visualization is a shared effort
Ni, it's es pro's prayer that is relevant here. I'm already long since fucked, buckled down, and shipped off to the sewer grate at the bottom of hell to serve out my sentient time. I've got nothing to give to "God," and wouldn't have a "Whatever" that needs anything. Love is a free gift, in every direction. And Jesus Christ was a big mistake made by mad Jews getting mistranslated among the goyim, who went on to fuck the whole thing up royally and call it "Christianity." I am a true Christian, i.e., a Jewish sectarian. I'm still working on Jesus' great question, "Who do you say I am?" That's the real Jesus koan, unsolved to this day.
love, tim
I do not think you are supposed to serve time in hell...
...but if you do find yourself there then pick up some metta powered weapons and kill em demons with kindness
Jesus was not so much jew as he was human being and he was not so much human being as he was sentient being. We all are and we all can do the same discovery as he did. Whether you pray to Jesus Christ or want to reach Gautama Buddha then do not ask for favors but ask them at which direction they look at.
Somehow I do not worry about Sarah.
She seem to have her heart in the right place and after worse days will come better days.
Sending metta though
...but if you do find yourself there then pick up some metta powered weapons and kill em demons with kindness
Jesus was not so much jew as he was human being and he was not so much human being as he was sentient being. We all are and we all can do the same discovery as he did. Whether you pray to Jesus Christ or want to reach Gautama Buddha then do not ask for favors but ask them at which direction they look at.
Somehow I do not worry about Sarah.
She seem to have her heart in the right place and after worse days will come better days.
Sending metta though